Exit clearance in the Philippines

[lowell1123 6]

geeez!!!! i know that they need a philippine passport BUT they wont allow anyone to make appointments until oct 1 2021. if you dont beleive me go try to make an appointment and tell me what happened

[lowell1123 6]

im done with this blog. people need to do some research i mean real research and not from word of mouth 

[HRQX 4,145]

21 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

they are not dual citizens because they need to apply for dual citizenship how can a newly born child become a dual citizen if no one applied for the child to become one?

As mentioned many times, RA 9225 doesn't apply to your children's case. RA 9225 was an amendment to CA 63. CA 63 explicitly says: https://lawphil.net/statutes/comacts/ca_63_1936.html

How citizenship may be lost. – A Filipino citizen may lose his citizenship in any of the following ways and/or events:

(1) By naturalization in a foreign country;

(2) By express renunciation of citizenship;

(3) By subscribing to an oath of allegiance to support the constitution or laws of a foreign country upon attaining twenty-one years of age or more: Provided, however, That a Filipino may not divest himself of Philippine citizenship in any manner while the Republic of the Philippines is at war with any country;

(4) By rendering services to, or accepting commission in, the armed forces of a foreign country: Provided, That the rendering of service to, or the acceptance of such commission in, the armed forces of a foreign country, and the taking of an oath of allegiance incident thereto, with the consent of the Republic of the Philippines, shall not divest a Filipino of his Philippine citizenship if either of the following circumstances is present:

(a) The Republic of the Philippines has a defensive and/or offensive pact of alliance with the said foreign country; or

(b) The said foreign country maintains armed forces on Philippine territory with the consent of the Republic of the Philippines: Provided, That the Filipino citizen concerned, at the time of rendering said service, or acceptance of said commission, and taking the oath of allegiance incident thereto, states that he does so only in connection with his service to said foreign country: And provided, finally, That any Filipino citizen who is rendering service to, or is commissioned in, the armed forces of a foreign country under any of the circumstances mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b), shall not be permitted to participate nor vote in any election of the Republic of the Philippines during the period of his service to, or commission in, the armed forces of said foreign country. Upon his discharge from the service of the said foreign country, he shall be automatically entitled to the full enjoyment of his civil and political rights as a Filipino citizen;

(5) By cancellation of the of the certificates of naturalization;

(6) By having been declared by competent authority, a deserter of the Philippine armed forces in time of war, unless subsequently, a plenary pardon or amnesty has been granted; and

(7) In the case of a woman, upon her marriage to a foreigner if, by virtue of the laws in force in her husband's country, she acquires his nationality.

 

The CRBA process is not the same as naturalization. Also the filipino citizenship is not renounced when doing CRBA.

Edited September 27, 2021 by HRQX

[lowell1123 6]

dual citizens in that sense yes they are dual citizens. but dual citizens as the government sees it no they are not dual citizens unless they aplly and get approved for them to become dual citizens.geez

[lowell1123 6]

so how can i be 100% wrong with that? meaning you were 100% wrong because i didnt mean dual citizenship the way you were thinking?          X X X

[lowell1123 6]

thats why before entering a discussion to make sure you read the content and understand the discussion and not just look at the words and automatically assume you are in the right

[HRQX 4,145]

2 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

but dual citizens as the government sees it no they are not dual citizens unless they aplly and get approved for them to become dual citizens.geez

The "Reacquisition of Philippine Citizenship" form is not needed for your children because, again, RA 9225 doesn't apply to them.

2 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

so how can i be 100% wrong with that?

You repeatedly referenced RA 9225 when that doesn't even apply to your children's case.

[Talako 781]

I've read this

1 hour ago, lowell1123 said:

thats why before entering a discussion to make sure you read the content and understand the discussion and not just look at the words and automatically assume you are in the right

I've read this whole thread, and I do understand before I make a comment.  You have misapplied what little you know.  You need to understand that RA 9225 does not apply.  I'd explain it as it already has been numerous times, but I'm too lazy to type it only to be ignored.  There are decades of experience in this forum in dealing with issues such as this.  There are parents that have transverse these same waters.

 

What do you want to hear?  Ok, you're right.  We all think you should pay the bribes, the ECCs, file for dual citizenship, and whatever else they think up to tap your wallet.  Just be aware that being wrong is going to be expensive.

 

I reserve the right to laugh at you though.

 

     

[Just Paul 4,595]

3 hours ago, lowell1123 said:

well if im 100% wrong then the BI is wrong and needs to get their people in check with that because thats where i got my information from. and if i was born here in the us and my mom at the time was a filipina that makes me a filipino citizen 

If that were to happen it does makes a Filipino Citizen.  Presuming she was a Filipin Citizen at the time and the dd she did a report of birth at the consulate - you would have a Filipino Passport too!  

 

Your kids are dual citizenship.

 

Using an agency is waste of money (maybe not a waste of time)  My wife's second Filipino passport was about the third in cost of her first.  She didn't use a agency or fixer. 

[TBoneTX 45,088]

The OP has received adequate advice, and the thread is becoming tense, so it's now closed to further comment.  Do not restart this topic or import its drama elsewhere.

 

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