Exit clearance in the Philippines

[lowell1123 6]

I have to boys in the philippines. On dec 20 they became us citizens by birth abroad and they got their US passports the same month. Are they allowed to board rhe plane with no problem? Is there a clearance exit fee they need to pay? Are they considered to be overstayed?

 

[SteveInBostonI130 3,434]

I assume one of their parents is a Philippines citizen?  There is no limitation on the US side, not sure about the Philippines side.  This post might be better suited in the Philippines regional forum.  You can click "report" on the top right and add a comment that you want it to be moved to the other forum.

[lowell1123 6]

yes. i am the US citizen. i petitioned my wife and her petition was just approved. now that i bought the plane tickets my wife just got done reading that my kids need to get an exit clearance. they shouldnt be overstayed because they just became us citizens during a pandemic. do they need to get a philippine passport still? for what? the philippines is so corrupt dont know what to pay for anymore. the office  of immigration has talked to my wife saying to see him after petition is approved then they will inform her of how much to pay him under the table just to get a exit clearance. its such a shame for the philippines to be doing this to anyone especially to their own people

[lowell1123 6]

instead of trying to help a person out they want to scam money that we dont have to give. after we pay the person i bet we will still get stuck at the airport ands pay another fee. if only i was in the philippines right now i would record the person who wants to be paid under the table and black mail him now just to let him know how it feels that what he is doing is not good.

[randy32 165]

If the kids have a Filipino passport, could they use that to exit the Philippines and US passport to enter the US?

 

Am just asking a question. I don't know what the rules are over there

[HRQX 4,145]

39 minutes ago, SteveInBostonI130 said:

This post might be better suited in the Philippines regional forum.

*** Moved to the Philippines regional forum ***

[lowell1123 6]

I dont know either what the rules are over there because  what I know if they are corrupt that they will tell you this way and you make a payment to them under the table then you find out you need to go the other way you can't refund the money you just paid. People in the philippines employed in the government are I would say about half of them in authority positions are corrupt. 

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

8 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

I dont know either what the rules are over there because  what I know if they are corrupt that they will tell you this way and you make a payment to them under the table then you find out you need to go the other way you can't refund the money you just paid. People in the philippines employed in the government are I would say about half of them in authority positions are corrupt. 

Dwelling on Philippine corruption is not going to help you move forward.

 

Your kids are dual citizens and there are advantages to that.  They are not overstayed.  I assume you have their PSA birth certificates  You should have obtained their Philippines passports.  If they had their Philippines passports, they would show both passports at the airport and there is no ECC required.  This is what I do with my two daughters.

 

If I were you I would contact Philippines Bureau of Immigration on Facebook and ask about the kids situation.  They are responsive and helpful there.  However, if you continue with the attitude you are showing in these posts, don't expect much help.  Be nice.

 

ECC, Exit clearance is not something that is usually corrupted. It is only p500~ and is available at any BI office.  Some visas, like mine, need ECC-B, and those are more expensive, about p2850, and are only obtained at the airport when leaving.

[HRQX 4,145]

25 minutes ago, lowell1123 said:

I dont know either what the rules are over there

Do your boys also have PH passports? With PH passports they can avoid ECC fees:

[AKteacher 104]

2 hours ago, lowell1123 said:

yes. i am the US citizen. i petitioned my wife and her petition was just approved. now that i bought the plane tickets my wife just got done reading that my kids need to get an exit clearance. they shouldnt be overstayed because they just became us citizens during a pandemic. do they need to get a philippine passport still? for what? the philippines is so corrupt dont know what to pay for anymore. the office  of immigration has talked to my wife saying to see him after petition is approved then they will inform her of how much to pay him under the table just to get a exit clearance. its such a shame for the philippines to be doing this to anyone especially to their own people

They need Philippines passports, or they will be considered overstays from the date they were born. I ran into this problem as I ran out of time to get my son a Philippines passport. Because my son was considered a foreigner (US citizen), BI charged for 6 years overstay plus other fees, penalties, etc. etc. etc. It was expensive. If he had a Philippines passport then no ECC would have been needed. That was about 5 years ago, so it is possible something has changed, but I doubt it.

 

Get them Philippines passports.

Edited September 27, 2021 by AKteacher

[Adventine 3,196]

Agreed with the others. Getting them Philippine passports is the simplest and easiest solution.

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

3 hours ago, AKteacher said:

They need Philippines passports, or they will be considered overstays from the date they were born. I ran into this problem as I ran out of time to get my son a Philippines passport. Because my son was considered a foreigner (US citizen), BI charged for 6 years overstay plus other fees, penalties, etc. etc. etc. It was expensive. If he had a Philippines passport then no ECC would have been needed. That was about 5 years ago, so it is possible something has changed, but I doubt it.

 

Get them Philippines passports.

I remember reading about some other cases like this.  On the surface, it does not seem fair if you can prove the birth was in the Philippines.  However, passports are THE document for travel, and without one, the immigration agents would not be able deal with all the possible scenarios in an effective manner.

 

So I withdraw my advice above about contacting BI on FB.  No need.  The child is a dual citizen for domestic purposes, but for international travel he needs the PH passport, or he will be considered only a U.S. citizen and go through what you went through.  Can you share what your costs were for your son?

 

Certainly a reminder for all expats to get their dual citizen kids both passports ASAP after birth.  My 5 year old was around 6 months old when we got hers.  I went for the PH renewal last week and got rejected because I made a mistake on the application.  I forgot to put a tilde over her middle name.  We have to make the correction and then go back on Oct. 20th.  They were nice about it and said we don't have to wait in line again.

[RO_AH 1,659]

9 hours ago, lowell1123 said:

I have to boys in the philippines. On dec 20 they became us citizens by birth abroad and they got their US passports the same month. Are they allowed to board rhe plane with no problem? Is there a clearance exit fee they need to pay? Are they considered to be overstayed?

My wife and I went straight from the CRBA appointment at the US Embassy to the DFA in Manila to get our 2 sons their PH passports for this very reason. As others have said show both passports and you will be good to go. After we received their US Passports I had my wife send in their SSN applications and received them as well. I wanted to make sure we got that all out of the way.

[Joe Kano 327]

12 hours ago, AKteacher said:

They need Philippines passports, or they will be considered overstays from the date they were born. I ran into this problem as I ran out of time to get my son a Philippines passport. Because my son was considered a foreigner (US citizen), BI charged for 6 years overstay plus other fees, penalties, etc. etc. etc. It was expensive. If he had a Philippines passport then no ECC would have been needed. That was about 5 years ago, so it is possible something has changed, but I doubt it.

 

Get them Philippines passports.

How much did that cost you?

[AKteacher 104]

8 hours ago, seekingthetruth said:

However, passports are THE document for travel

 

The child is a dual citizen for domestic purposes, but for international travel he needs the PH passport, or he will be considered only a U.S. citizen

 

Can you share what your costs were for your son?

 

Exactly right. Altogether, it cost me the equivalent of a few hundred US dollars.