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A lawyer could be dirt cheap compared to the possible cost of an active I 864

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If at the time of our AoS interview we (or I) have decided to pursue a divorce, is our marriage still "bona fide" by USCIS standards? 

 

Things were good at first but have been bad, and growing worse, for a long time now. We are cohabitating and all that but also I'm quite confident that, at this point, she's only with me for the greencard and will demand a divorce or falsify a VAWA report as soon as she can do so without jeopardizing her status.  I would assume this is not be a bona fide marriage any longer, but am not certain exactly what the USCIC criteria are.

 

I am preparing to withdraw the I-864 Affidavit of Support but am concerned the request may not process before the interview date and USCIS may somehow approve the adjustment.

 

 

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At his stage you issue is more about withdrawing the I-864 and terminating the marriage than whether it is /was a bonfire marriage.   Try to pull the I-864, withdraw the AOS petition and have a heart to heart talk about her moving back.   I'm sure she is feeling it too.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I'm a little confused about withdrawing the I-864 vs the I-485. I would think that the same letter could request the withdrawal of both since they need the same info and go to the same place?

 

It also kind of seems like I could just hand that letter to the person at the interview since that's where I'm mailing them too (awkwardness of doing that with my soon-to-be-ex in attendance aside).

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I thought the beneficiary files the I 485?

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27 minutes ago, x3n said:

I'm a little confused about withdrawing the I-864 vs the I-485. I would think that the same letter could request the withdrawal of both since they need the same info and go to the same place?

 

You, the USC, cannot withdraw the I-485 because it is not your application, even though you filed the petition on which the I-485 is based.  In your withdrawal letter, do NOT request to withdraw the I-485.  USCIS will ignore your request.  You may only withdraw the I-864 as you are the signatory for that form.

 

27 minutes ago, x3n said:

It also kind of seems like I could just hand that letter to the person at the interview since that's where I'm mailing them too (awkwardness of doing that with my soon-to-be-ex in attendance aside).

 

No point attending the interview if you are pulling the I-864 anyway.  The I-485 will be denied if you do not attend.  Just make sure you mail the I-864 withdrawal letter to the USCIS SC/LFO, as it's possible for the I-485 to be approved without interview.

 

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Ok, good to know. Thank you - I would have messed that up for sure.

I am concerned about the I-485 being approved even if I don't go to the interview - but hopefully the I-864 withdrawal request will get to the local field office well ahead of the interview date (in which case I assume they'll cancel the interview and let us know).

 

 

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I mailed I-864 withdrawl requests to both the USCIS office in CA and the local one (where the interview would be). I sent them certified mail and also asked in the letter that they confirm with me that the form was withdrawn. It's a really emotional step to take. I don't particularly want to ruin my wife's shot at getting a greencard, but it's clear that's all she is in the marriage for and that she would file for divorce as soon as she could do so without jeopardizing the card. So, given the circumstances, it just didn't make sense to stay financially obligated to her indefinitely. I wish cicumstances were otherwise.

 

 

For reference, on Sept 14th we received the email that USCIS was ready to schedule our interview and that they would let us know. By Oct 7th we had still not received that notice, so I believe that the withdraw should get to the local office with time to spare. If we do get an interview notice before I get confirmation of the withdrawl, then I'll have to decide what to do.

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Being ready to schedule interview can be months before they do. hopefully this is the case for your wife too. 

 

Many members have advise members in your situation to also fax in the withdrawal letter to the local office. 

 

 

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Today (October 25th) our case status updated to say that our interview has been scheduled (with details to follow via mail). So, apparently, they have not yet processed the request to withdraw the I-864 Affidavit of Support  😕

 

I'm not sure what to do as my wife has abandoned the marriage, but I'm sure she received the same notice. Since people say they might grant the adjustment of status (and so activate the I-864) even if no one shows up, I guess I should go to the interview with another copy of the I-864 withdrawal request and also explain in person that we do not have a bona-fide marriage?

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