FDA Panel Member on COVID Vaccines: 'Heart Attacks Happen 71 Times More Often...'

[laylalex 7,282]

10 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

So you don't trust the FDA approval,  in favor of the FDA approved medicine (for something else totally unrelated to covid infection). 

 

So when are we supposed to trust drug makers and the FDA?

 

When they say stuff we like, I think? 🤷‍♀️

[jg121783 3,908]

6 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

So you don't trust the FDA approval,  in favor of the FDA approved medicine (for something else totally unrelated to covid infection). 

 

So when are we supposed to trust drug makers and the FDA?

 

Just saying I have a lot more trust for a medicine that is FDA approved and has an FDA approved version available to the public, has a long track record of being safe and has showed promise in treating covid versus a medicine that is emergency use authorized, recently gained a rushed and secretive FDA approval (and the FDA approved version isn't even publicly available) and doesn't look too promising in the safety or effectiveness department.

[TBoneTX 44,669]

7 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I feel rewarded that iz the uonly issues youz founded with my statement 

English-only outside the regional forums!  Reported!!!

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

52 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Just saying I have a lot more trust for a medicine that is FDA approved and has an FDA approved version available to the public, has a long track record of being safe and has showed promise in treating covid versus a medicine that is emergency use authorized, recently gained a rushed and secretive FDA approval (and the FDA approved version isn't even publicly available) and doesn't look too promising in the safety or effectiveness department.

Wrong information on several points. Good luck with your antivax strategy avoiding this disease. 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

4 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

So you don't trust the FDA approval,  in favor of the FDA approved medicine (for something else totally unrelated to covid infection). 

 

So when are we supposed to trust drug makers and the FDA?

 

A) Ivermectin has been safely used for decades without issue.  Time is on its side.

 

B) There is no FDA-approved covid drug, just the rushed-into-headlong EUA experimental one.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

5 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

A) Ivermectin has been safely used for decades without issue.  Time is on its side.

 

B) There is no FDA-approved covid drug, just the rushed-into-headlong EUA experimental one.

Well Glucophage is proven safe and FDA approved.  Why not take it. It will do you as much good as IVOMEC.  Suggesting a drug is good for Corona,  just because it is FDA approved is lunacy. 

 

 

[jg121783 3,908]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Well Glucophage is proven safe and FDA approved.  Why not take it. It will do you as much good as IVOMEC.  Suggesting a drug is good for Corona,  just because it is FDA approved is lunacy. 

 

 

No one is suggesting a drug can treat covid simply because it is FDA approved. That is a strawman. I can't speak for others but when I bring up the long time FDA approval and safety record of ivermectin it is to show that it is safer than we are being told. The numerous cases of people recovering from covid after taking ivermectin is what suggests that it can treat covid. Not the FDA approval.

[jg121783 3,908]

10 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Wrong information on several points. Good luck with your antivax strategy avoiding this disease. 

What exactly am I incorrect about? I'm not an anti vaxxer by the way. Opposing the covid "vaccine" doesn't make someone an anti vaxxer.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Well Glucophage is proven safe and FDA approved.  Why not take it. It will do you as much good as IVOMEC.  Suggesting a drug is good for Corona,  just because it is FDA approved is lunacy. 

 

 

You really have to stop reading the FB stuff.  Several doctors have used Ivermectin to treat covid successfully.  I have friends who had it prescribed when the got covid recently.  No one is suggesting to use it just because it is FDA approved.  There is about as much information and timeline of the efficacy of Ivermectin as there was with the "vaccines" that were used back in December.  The only difference being that NO ONE is dying from Ivermectin, while many are after getting the EUA approved drugs.

[yuna628 9,646]

3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Well Glucophage is proven safe and FDA approved.  Why not take it. It will do you as much good as IVOMEC.  Suggesting a drug is good for Corona,  just because it is FDA approved is lunacy. 

 

 

Wait until you hear about the snorting and drinking Betadine thing...

[jg121783 3,908]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Wait until you hear about the snorting and drinking Betadine thing...

Never heard of that. But good job trying to lump together a treatment that is effective with one that presumably isn't. That's called a red herring.

[Dashinka 24,109]

15 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Wrong information on several points. Good luck with your antivax strategy avoiding this disease. 

Interesting how people that are against forcibly jabbing someone with a drug/vaccine and wanting more information are labeled antivaxxers.  I just love identity politics.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

Never heard of that. But good job trying to lump together a treatment that is effective with one that presumably isn't. That's called a red herring.

Not one credible shred of evidence Ivomec works. As I stated my doctor looked at all the research and it was totally bogus.  There are several legit studies that prove it has zero effect on covid.

 

Is it dangerous if given the human version under a doctors care. Probably not.

 

To be clear. Just because I disagree with some of you here on some of the wild conspiracy covid claims does not mean I don't respect you or your opnion. 

 

I do think some of you not admitting the science does not support your claims and you are wrong, is more due to toxic masculinity. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

Ivermectin for Covid-19: abundance of hype, dearth of evidence

https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/25/ivermectin-for-covid-19-abundance-of-hype-dearth-of-evidence/

 

A British medical student, Jack Lawrence, was assigned to evaluate the Elgazzar paper for a course and encountered a potpourri of apparent plagiarism and data fabrication. The Elgazzar paper had not been formally published in a medical journal, but had appeared instead on a preprint website called Research Square. Upon learning of Lawrence’s analysis, 

 

Infectious Diseases Society of America concur. Even Merck, an ivermectin manufacturer, avers that there is “no meaningful evidence for clinical activity or efficacy in patients with Covid-19.” And just last weekend the FDA warned people not to use the drug as a treatment for Covid-19.

Edited September 24, 2021 by Nature Boy 2.0

[jg121783 3,908]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Not one credible shred of evidence Ivomec works. As I stated my doctor looked at all the research and it was totally bogus.  There are several legit studies that prove it has zero effect on covid.

 

Is it dangerous if given the human version under a doctors care. Probably not.

 

To be clear. Just because I disagree with some of you here on some of the wild conspiracy covid claims does not mean I don't respect you or your opnion. 

 

I do think some of you not admitting the science does not support your claims and you are wrong, is more due to toxic masculinity. 

Really? Here is some of the evidence I found within a few minutes of searching google. There is plenty more where this came from:

 

Ivermectin as a SARS-CoV-2 Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis Method in Healthcare Workers: A Propensity Score-Matched Retrospective Cohort Study

https://www.cureus.com/articles/63131-ivermectin-as-a-sars-cov-2-pre-exposure-prophylaxis-method-in-healthcare-workers-a-propensity-score-matched-retrospective-cohort-study

 

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/06000/review_of_the_emerging_evidence_demonstrating_the.4.aspx

 

The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5

 

But you go ahead and keep believing the people saying anyone who uses ivermectin is taking horse paste.