Saint Luke's announces mandatory COVID vaccine and RT-PCR testing

[NoMansLand2020 298]

11 minutes ago, NoMansLand2020 said:

Having to be vaccinated and having to take a covid test prior to the medical is a a result of the loser Philippines mishandling of the pandemic and snail paced vaccine rollout combined with the BS quarantine and lockdown Rollercoaster restrictions. If the country was operating in a similar capacity to the US, they wouldn't have these extra requirements and petitions could be completed quicker as the embassy could be at full staff. Everything is based off local conditions, which is no fault to the US, but the Philippines. 

The US is averaging close to 150k cases a day at the moment. The Philippines is averaging 20k. Granted the Philippines has 1/3 of the population of the US. It's still a very small percentage. Even with the state of the pandemic the US, our Govt hasnt put in place the level of restrictions that the Philippines has. 

 

The Philippines is just dramatizing the entire thing. Kind of like how Seattle and parts of California go on shutdown when they get an 1/8 of an inch or snow or temperatures drop below freezing. 

[rumelannie 6]

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As per US CDC and Department of State, COVID 19 is classified as Class A, Inadmissible Medical Condition beginning October 1, 2021:

Does it mean if I take the medical exam now and get the results before October 1st, I don't have to provide such requirements?

[assila 14]

8 hours ago, top_secret said:

Saint Luke's Extension Clinic just announced MANDATORY completion of COVID vaccination before any medical will be issued in the Philippines.  Pretty much putting to rest any speculation about what COVID vaccine policy will be going forward.  No vaccine, no medical report.  If it is a two dose vaccine both doses must be completed on schedule for a medical report to be issued. 

 

There is also a new requirement for a negative RT-PCR test prior to any medical examination being done so that is another added expense.  They do not mention the option of a much cheaper, faster antigen test.  Coincidentally,  Saint Luke's Extension Clinic is offering RT-PCR testing for a fee.

 

Not a concern to us as my wife did already get her vaccine and we have good documentation of that fact.  However, I imagine some folks will be freaking out at this development.

 

https://slec.ph/

 

 

So, the "age appropriate" Covid vaccines would be for children 12 and up in the US. Is that the same in the Philippines or does anyone know if they're vaccinating children younger than 12?

Edited September 16, 2021 by assila

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1 hour ago, assila said:

So, the "age appropriate" Covid vaccines would be for children 12 and up in the US. Is that the same in the Philippines or does anyone know if they're vaccinating children younger than 12?

They aren’t doing children yet. Typically the Philippines will follow what the US CDC says. Not always, but usually. 

[Joe Kano 327]

16 hours ago, top_secret said:

 

The announcement does not mention if COVID vaccine would be provided by Saint Luke's or if the applicant is expected to come up with it on their own.   US CDC guidelines do say the Johnson & Johnson vaccine can be administered concurrently with other vaccines, yielding a completely vaccinated individual in a single day.  So that would seem like the easy solution.  J&J is available in the Philippines.  My wife got some.  The US donated 3.2 million doses of J&J to the Philippines so maybe they could kick down a few for SLEC to keep in their fridge.  It does mention they are accepting Chinovax and Rusovax too.

I see, From reading it I was thinking covid vaccine was now part of the injections you got from SLEC.

[Carpe Vinum 2,327]

5 minutes ago, Joe Kano said:

I see, From reading it I was thinking covid vaccine was now part of the injections you got from SLEC.

You would think if they were going to require it they would provide it. Now the people have to try to get the vaccine on their own during mixed degrees of lockdown and varying availability of the shots.

[Joe Kano 327]

2 hours ago, boris64 said:

You would think if they were going to require it they would provide it. Now the people have to try to get the vaccine on their own during mixed degrees of lockdown and varying availability of the shots.

As usual for the Philippines doesn't really make sense

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

20 hours ago, top_secret said:

Not a concern to us as my wife did already get her vaccine and we have good documentation of that fact.  However, I imagine some folks will be freaking out at this development.

My wife just got her first Pfizer today and will get the second next month.

 

I don't recall how old your step daughter is.  My step daughter is 17 and I am wondering how this impacts her, if at all????

[top_secret 2,417]

1 hour ago, seekingthetruth said:

My wife just got her first Pfizer today and will get the second next month.

 

I don't recall how old your step daughter is.  My step daughter is 17 and I am wondering how this impacts her, if at all????

 

She's 9, so it has no impact on her, although I personally wouldn't hesitate for a second getting her vaccinated too if it were available to that age group.  Since we got our interview appointment for October 5, they are now both going for their physicals this coming Tuesday and we have issues related to Saint Luke's that are far more serious to concern ourselves with than vaccines.  Like is it possible to find parking near there in the morning and does traveling between provinces with a child in the car require any additional paperwork related to §ÆCQ (or whatever kind of CQ they have these days).  If they require travel passes, rona-swabs, stuff like that.  And of course, there is the ever-present suspense of the mandatory round of Russian roulette with Saint Luke's x-ray machine.  So, vaccine politics are pretty low on our list of concerns, but it seems they will go through before the October 1 deadline.

[Joe Kano 327]

16 hours ago, NoMansLand2020 said:

Having to be vaccinated and having to take a covid test prior to the medical is a a result of the loser Philippines mishandling of the pandemic and snail paced vaccine rollout combined with the BS quarantine and lockdown Rollercoaster restrictions. If the country was operating in a similar capacity to the US, they wouldn't have these extra requirements and petitions could be completed quicker as the embassy could be at full staff. Everything is based off local conditions, which is no fault to the US, but the Philippines. 

100% Spot on.......

[AKteacher 104]

23 hours ago, top_secret said:

Saint Luke's Extension Clinic just announced MANDATORY completion of COVID vaccination before any medical will be issued in the Philippines. 

It's about time. The vaccines (the US-made ones at least) have proven to be safe and effective. There is absolutely no reason why all immigrants (and all eligible US persons for that matter) should not be vaccinated.  Are the vaccines perfect? Of course not. But they are safe and effective. We need to start getting tough on these superstitious people who are afraid of vaccines, think they're being chipped, etc. They do not have the right to spread disease to the rest of us. Nobody can deny that vaccines work. After all, are the hospitals filling up with vaccinated people? Nope - the vast majority are unvaccinated.

[RO_AH 1,659]

43 minutes ago, AKteacher said:

It's about time. The vaccines (the US-made ones at least) have proven to be safe and effective. There is absolutely no reason why all immigrants (and all eligible US persons for that matter) should not be vaccinated.  Are the vaccines perfect? Of course not. But they are safe and effective. We need to start getting tough on these superstitious people who are afraid of vaccines, think they're being chipped, etc. They do not have the right to spread disease to the rest of us. Nobody can deny that vaccines work. After all, are the hospitals filling up with vaccinated people? Nope - the vast majority are unvaccinated.

So if I choose not to get a vaccine that means I am "superstitious people who are afraid of vaccines, think they're being chipped, etc. ". Maybe it's easy for you to throw everyone in a box and label them, as it seems that's what we are taught in today's society. I have found that people who have not taken the vaccine are far more educated on the subject than those that have. Would you label me as an anti-vaxer? I have almost every vaccine so that don't fly. My personal choice is my personal choice and my reasons don't need to be explained or understood by you or anyone else. I really find it comical that people with the vaccine that wear masks and social distance are blaming non-vaccinated people for endangering them. Yet they can still get it and transmit it...

[AKteacher 104]

2 minutes ago, RO_AH said:

So if I choose not to get a vaccine that means I am "superstitious people who are afraid of vaccines, think they're being chipped, etc. ". Maybe it's easy for you to throw everyone in a box and label them, as it seems that's what we are taught in today's society. I have found that people who have not taken the vaccine are far more educated on the subject than those that have. Would you label me as an anti-vaxer? I have almost every vaccine so that don't fly. My personal choice is my personal choice and my reasons don't need to be explained or understood by you or anyone else. I really find it comical that people with the vaccine that wear masks and social distance are blaming non-vaccinated people for endangering them. Yet they can still get it and transmit it...

Unless you've had an organ transplant, have ongoing active cancer treatment, AIDS or some other immune disorder, then there is no reason you should not be vaccinated. If you have one of these conditions, then you should probably be isolating anyway at least to some extent. Nobody is going to hold you down and force a shot into your arm. If it's your personal choice not to get vaccinated, then you can stay home. Otherwise, there shouldn't just be an option to spread covid and take hospital beds from people who need treatment for other conditions. Yes, it is still possible to spread covid even if you're vaccinated (i.e. like I said before, the vaccines aren't perfect), but that doesn't mean they're not safe and effective. Remember the problems with the polio vaccine? Well, how many kids do you see these days with polio, smallpox, etc? Those vaccines weren't perfect either.

 

Unfortunately, the covid issue has become politicized, when it is really just a public health issue. The virus doesn't care what political party you support, but certain politicians have seized on people's irrational fears, which they validate in order to use for political gain, which is very destructive.  Kind of goes along with the ideology that everything government does somehow must always be inherently evil...

[RO_AH 1,659]

20 minutes ago, AKteacher said:

Unless you've had an organ transplant, have ongoing active cancer treatment, AIDS or some other immune disorder, then there is no reason you should not be vaccinated.

Sorry but I will take my medical advise from my doctor not you.

 

21 minutes ago, AKteacher said:

If it's your personal choice not to get vaccinated, then you can stay home.

Sorry, but I will take my citizenship with a side order of freedom.

23 minutes ago, AKteacher said:

Yes, it is still possible to spread covid even if you're vaccinated (i.e. like I said before, the vaccines aren't perfect),

In that case the vaccinated should stay home too. "well at least I tried" is not a good enough excuse if you get it and spread it to someone and kill them by your logic.

 

24 minutes ago, AKteacher said:

Well, how many kids do you see these days with polio, smallpox, etc? Those vaccines weren't perfect either.

No one said that they were, and I received all of those and others. At least I could not get or spread any of those when I was vaccinated.

25 minutes ago, AKteacher said:

Unfortunately, the covid issue has become politicized

As evidenced by your post.

 

Nothing about it is based on politics for me. I know many people on both sides of the political spectrum that have taken the vaccine. Some choose to politicize it. I do research, look at the facts and the science, not what people (such as yourself) or the media tell me the science and facts say. You seem to have strong opinions on the matter. Ask yourself where those opinions were derived.

 

[jg121783 3,915]

2 hours ago, AKteacher said:

It's about time. The vaccines (the US-made ones at least) have proven to be safe and effective. There is absolutely no reason why all immigrants (and all eligible US persons for that matter) should not be vaccinated.  Are the vaccines perfect? Of course not. But they are safe and effective. We need to start getting tough on these superstitious people who are afraid of vaccines, think they're being chipped, etc. They do not have the right to spread disease to the rest of us. Nobody can deny that vaccines work. After all, are the hospitals filling up with vaccinated people? Nope - the vast majority are unvaccinated.

A few things here. The "vaccine" has not been proven safe and effective. Secondly just because someone wont take the covid shot doesn't necessarily make them anti vaccine. Third there is no evidence that people who choose not to take the shot are "spreading disease" to anyone at a higher rate than those who took the shot. Fourth if you actually look at the numbers versus believing every word that comes out of Faucci's mouth you would see that not only in the US but worldwide vaccinated people are actually being hospitalized at a higher rate than unvaccinated people. Finally if you are "vaccinated" and you believe it is effective why do you think you have the right to get in other people's business and force an experimental medical treatment on them? It's hard for me to comprehend how some people try to force their paranoia on others. 

Edited September 16, 2021 by jg121783