Arriving in Manila changes coming

[Talako 781]

7 hours ago, boris64 said:

Oh well. We tried))))

It is unfortunate.  In another thread, he equates the Covid vaccine to early 1900s eugenics.  The entertainment value would be gold even if sad.

[jg121783 3,915]

9 hours ago, boris64 said:

Oh well. We tried))))

 

2 hours ago, Talako said:

It is unfortunate.  In another thread, he equates the Covid vaccine to early 1900s eugenics.  The entertainment value would be gold even if sad.

Like I said wrong time and place. I'm pretty sure the Philippines forum is not the proper place for this debate. There is however another forum where debate on this topic is appropriate and I would be happy to continue our debate there.

[Kby175 115]

 

On 8/28/2021 at 11:17 AM, Bugs said:

Thank you for illustrating my point.  You got vaccinated, which is why you can do these things and say “life is good”.  The Delta surge is affecting the unvaccinated who are doing those things.

 

Lockdowns were necessary before the availability of vaccinations to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed.  The vaccination rate in the USA is 53%. The vaccination rate in the Philippines is 17%.  If the Philippines relaxed restrictions like the USA during Delta we’d see another India.

Incorrect the lockdowns were to slow the surge for the hospitals to prepare it had nothing to do with waiting for vaccines.  This was supposed to be a temporary measure and it turned into something else.

 

Multiple international studies have been done lockdowns do not slow the virus. Vaccines slow the virus, live case study that lockdowns do not work look at the Philippines.  

 

The delta surge we are seeing in the US fortunately is showing signs of peaking.  

 

 

[Bugs 455]

4 hours ago, Kby175 said:

 

Incorrect the lockdowns were to slow the surge for the hospitals to prepare it had nothing to do with waiting for vaccines.  This was supposed to be a temporary measure and it turned into something else.

 

Multiple international studies have been done lockdowns do not slow the virus. Vaccines slow the virus, live case study that lockdowns do not work look at the Philippines.  

 

The delta surge we are seeing in the US fortunately is showing signs of peaking.  

 

 

I think you read my post wrong.  Nowhere did I say that the lockdowns were contingent on vaccine availability.  In fact, I said the same thing you did - they were to flatten the curve for the sake of hospitals.

 

Anyhow we agree on vaccines being the most effective way to curtail the virus.

[NeonParticles 126]

Back on topic... Does this just apply for Manila and not Cebu, etc?

Edited August 31, 2021 by NeonParticles

[Kby175 115]

Philippine airlines does not say anything about Cebu but I would contact your airline.  

 

https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/aboutus/newsandevents/advisory-covid19-29jul21-196

 

https://onehealthpass.com.ph/

 

 

 

 

[top_secret 2,417]

7 hours ago, NeonParticles said:

Back on topic... Does this just apply for Manila and not Cebu, etc?

In the small print it says not required at Cebu or Clark

 

[NeonParticles 126]

2 hours ago, top_secret said:

In the small print it says not required at Cebu or Clark

 

Thanks for this!

[John & Rose 7,239]

On 8/31/2021 at 7:15 PM, top_secret said:

In the small print it says not required at Cebu or Clark

 

We are going to the Philippines in October and November.  I tried the one health pass and the address area for home address is only set up for Philippine addresses.  It seems to be more for Filipinos traveling around the country than visitors.

[flicks1998 1,044]

The IATF came out yesterday with the recommendation of "granular" lockdowns throughout Manila.  I almost fell over when reading the details as if the process has not been confusing enough over the last 1.5 years.  Around September 8th or so, Manila would move to GCQ, but certain hotspots around the city would have different levels of restrictions.  They would be coded as Level 1, 2, 3 ,4.  The lockdown area may just be a group of houses or subdivisions, instead of an entire barangay.

 

I know the Philippines has allowed LGUs to make their own Covid rules, which I took as at the barangay level, but now if your going to start dividing up barangays into tiny little fiefdoms, good luck ever knowing what travel protocols youll have to follow if your going back for a visit. 

 

 

 

[RO_AH 1,659]

1 hour ago, flicks1998 said:

The IATF came out yesterday with the recommendation of "granular" lockdowns throughout Manila.  I almost fell over when reading the details as if the process has not been confusing enough over the last 1.5 years.  Around September 8th or so, Manila would move to GCQ, but certain hotspots around the city would have different levels of restrictions.  They would be coded as Level 1, 2, 3 ,4.  The lockdown area may just be a group of houses or subdivisions, instead of an entire barangay.

 

I know the Philippines has allowed LGUs to make their own Covid rules, which I took as at the barangay level, but now if your going to start dividing up barangays into tiny little fiefdoms, good luck ever knowing what travel protocols youll have to follow if your going back for a visit.

I will be there Oct 13 and not looking forward to all the BS. I will enjoy finally being with family and I will be so thankful when my wife and 2 children get on that plane with me this time.