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16 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

I agree with him, but I would have relieved him also 

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14 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I agree with him, but I would have relieved him also 

I wouldn't have.  He is a TRUE American hero.  And I suspect he will do very well once he rids himself of the corrupt government which has failed him miserably as a human being.  I admire him for falling on his sword.  If only more patriots would...

 

And here's MORE good news from military types who have the ballz to stand up for America when our current administration has failed to:

 

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A group of highly trained US military veterans has been secretly rescuing hundreds of allied operatives from Afghanistan — volunteering over fears those allies would otherwise be left for dead, according to a report.

The weeklong secret operation dubbed “Pineapple Express” has been carried out by a group of special ops veterans including retired Green Berets and SEAL Team commanders, they told ABC News.

They were driven by deep frustration “that our own government didn’t do this,” former Navy SEAL Jason Redman told ABC.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/us-vets-volunteer-to-secretly-rescue-allies-in-afghanistan/

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14 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I agree with him, but I would have relieved him also 

 

13 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

I wouldn't have.  He is a TRUE American hero.  And I suspect he will do very well once he rids himself of the corrupt government which has failed him miserably as a human being.  I admire him for falling on his sword.  If only more patriots would...

You have to relieve him.  Military success is all about chain of command.  He did the right thing and higher ups in the chain of command should have to answer to his charges.

 

And he agrees.  He said, if he was in their shoes, he would have relieved him.  I'm sure he knows that there is an internal way to do this, but he chose to sacrifice himself because of his overall displeasure with the way the military is handling everything these days.  IMHO.

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2 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

he will do very well once he rids himself of the corrupt government which has failed him miserably

He'll be canceled, blacklisted, shunned, etc.

 

I really wonder why these active/retired Generals never got called on the official carpet for criticizing Pres. Trump.

I really, really wonder how Porkchop Vindman avoided it.

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10 hours ago, seekingthetruth said:

 

You have to relieve him.  Military success is all about chain of command.  He did the right thing and higher ups in the chain of command should have to answer to his charges.

 

And he agrees.  He said, if he was in their shoes, he would have relieved him.  I'm sure he knows that there is an internal way to do this, but he chose to sacrifice himself because of his overall displeasure with the way the military is handling everything these days.  IMHO.

Yeah, I get all of that, and know why it happened.  But I still would not have pulled the trigger on his career.  He may be wrong FOR what he said, but what he said isn't wrong.  But as you say, it was his choice.  

As a counterpoint to this, Alexander Vindmann (same rank as this Marine) outright LIED about a sitting president, and was allowed to retire.

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12 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

I wouldn't have.  He is a TRUE American hero.  And I suspect he will do very well once he rids himself of the corrupt government which has failed him miserably as a human being.  I admire him for falling on his sword.  If only more patriots would...

 

And here's MORE good news from military types who have the ballz to stand up for America when our current administration has failed to:

 

 

https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/us-vets-volunteer-to-secretly-rescue-allies-in-afghanistan/

I admire him for falling own his own sword, which he surely did. You can't have military order and discipline with people doing what he did. Just becuse we agree with his opinion,  does not make it ok. 

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6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I admire him for falling own his own sword, which he surely did. You can't have military order and discipline with people doing what he did. Just becuse we agree with his opinion,  does not make it ok. 

So what, exactly, makes what Lt. Col Vindmann did ok?  Why was he not fired/court martialed and lose HIS retirement?

 

NVM, I see why now.

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On 8/29/2021 at 2:37 AM, TBoneTX said:

He'll be canceled, blacklisted, shunned, etc.

 

I really wonder why these active/retired Generals never got called on the official carpet for criticizing Pres. Trump.

I really, really wonder how Porkchop Vindman avoided it.

I don't think so.  Given the way he left the service, and the mess of this current administration, he has a potential for exposing the idiocy the Left/Dems have done to the military.

 

Btw, it is interesting that a 10 year old podcast can get you canned from a talk show, but a fiasco in Afghanistan resulting in the preventable deaths of service members, and the generals/bureaucrats will most likely get a pay raise.

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