Philippine CFO - Certificate of No Marriage Question

[Justin09 1]

Philippine CFO is asking a proof of no marriage from me, the US petitioner. I have never been married before and when I contacted my county clerk, they had no idea what I am talking about. 

 

Some quick googling, I found a template for Single Status Affidavit Form that I have to get notarize and apostille.

 

Has anybody done this before? What are other forms of proof of single status?

[payxibka 10,045]

12 minutes ago, Justin09 said:

Philippine CFO is asking a proof of no marriage from me, the US petitioner. I have never been married before and when I contacted my county clerk, they had no idea what I am talking about. 

 

Some quick googling, I found a template for Single Status Affidavit Form that I have to get notarize and apostille.

 

Has anybody done this before? What are other forms of proof of single status?

I didn't.   The USA has no such document. CFO should know this.

 

FYI.  This is better asked in the Philippines regional forum 

Edited August 18, 2021 by payxibka

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

****I moved this to the Philippines regional discussion area****

[Commish10 427]

1 hour ago, Justin09 said:

Philippine CFO is asking a proof of no marriage from me, the US petitioner. I have never been married before and when I contacted my county clerk, they had no idea what I am talking about. 

 

Some quick googling, I found a template for Single Status Affidavit Form that I have to get notarize and apostille.

 

Has anybody done this before? What are other forms of proof of single status?

IRS Filing

[Justin09 1]

23 minutes ago, Commish10 said:

IRS Filing

Thanks, I've thought of that however you could still file as single.

[Justin09 1]

1 hour ago, payxibka said:

I didn't.   The USA has no such document. CFO should know this.

 

FYI.  This is better asked in the Philippines regional forum 

Yeah, it makes no sense asking for it after passing all the requirements for the visa. Thank you though. 

[payxibka 10,045]

1 minute ago, Justin09 said:

Yeah, it makes no sense asking for it after passing all the requirements for the visa. Thank you though. 

Different government independent of the visa process simply trying to stick their nose in.

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

7 hours ago, payxibka said:

The USA has no such document. CFO should know this.

 

5 hours ago, payxibka said:

Different government independent of the visa process simply trying to stick their nose in.

I never heard of this from CFO.

 

When I got married in the Philippines, I had to go to the US Embassy to do an Affidavit, because it is correct that the US does not have such a document.  In the attached PDF, page 2 is the Affidavit I have.  Actually I did not go to the Embassy because back then the Embassy had outreaches.  Cost me $50 to have the document created and notarized by the Embassy notary.

 

Again, I have read many stories about CFO, and this is the first time I have heard of this for CFO.

MC 2001 MEMO Affidavit in Lieu of Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage for American Citizens(FILEminimizer).pdf

[J39501 0]

Had same request from CFO and found that my state had an application for a Certified Single Status.  They search the state database and declare if you had ever been married in that state.  It was literally one line but on the state’s official certificate paper. 

[top_secret 2,421]

I've heard of an affidavit of eligibility for marriage being asked as a requirement for a foreigner to marry in the Philippines.  But not by CFO.  If CFO is asking, maybe they suspect a previous Philippine marriage for some reason.  Foreigners can get a CENOMAR or Advisory of Marriage from PSA.  Maybe that's all they want if it doesn't create any problems.

 

 

I recently heard of the NEW LATEST, all time weirdest, totally no one could make this s#@t up, requirement from a CFO counselor.  Apparently the counselor found out the foreign fiance had a know Filipina ex-girlfriend.  So the new fiancee, who has applied for the CFO, was told she needed to contact the ex-girlfriend and get an affidavit from her about the reasons she broke up with the foreign boyfriend.  I never heard the outcome though.  I can't see how that could possibly end well.

Edited August 19, 2021 by top_secret

[RO_AH 1,659]

Maybe they want one from the PSA? I would email the consular and tell them America has no such document and ask if she is requesting that you get one from PSA.

[flicks1998 1,044]

6 hours ago, top_secret said:

I've heard of an affidavit of eligibility for marriage being asked as a requirement for a foreigner to marry in the Philippines.  But not by CFO.  If CFO is asking, maybe they suspect a previous Philippine marriage for some reason.  Foreigners can get a CENOMAR or Advisory of Marriage from PSA.  Maybe that's all they want if it doesn't create any problems.

 

 

I recently heard of the NEW LATEST, all time weirdest, totally no one could make this s#@t up, requirement from a CFO counselor.  Apparently the counselor found out the foreign fiance had a know Filipina ex-girlfriend.  So the new fiancee, who has applied for the CFO, was told she needed to contact the ex-girlfriend and get an affidavit from her about the reasons she broke up with the foreign boyfriend.  I never heard the outcome though.  I can't see how that could possibly end well.

This is the ridiculousness of the CFO process.  The stories abound on some of the dumbest requests.  Many of its just arbitrary as well.  No rhyme or reason to any of the questions, no standardization.  And this has been going on for more than a decade +.  It all comes down to the Counselor someone is assigned.  My son is from an ex-Filipina girlfriend, but CFO counselor knew this and the only question on that matter was if my fiance had ever met him which was obviously yes since both him and I were listening in on the CFO interview.  Its treating 25, 30, 35, 40+ year old people like children.

 

The CFO is broken down by country where the applicant is going.  If they were to provide information to the interviewees on domestic violence and what to do, in case there is a fire, or if they are in an automobile accident (which the process is different PI vs. US), banking and how to manage money, importance of tax filing in the foreign country, potential cultural differences, etc etc etc then there would be use to it.  It would be closer to a cross-cultural training session which is what many expats get when they move to a different country, minus the domestic violence topic. 

Edited August 19, 2021 by flicks1998

[Tahoma 2,292]

I agree with top-secret and Commish 10, submit your CENOMAR and your tax return to the CFO.  That should satisfy them.

Edited August 19, 2021 by Tahoma

[PWB 213]

On 8/18/2021 at 4:40 PM, Commish10 said:

IRS Filing

IRS Filing can verify that you are currently single, but will not be helpful in proving that you have never been married.  CFO is over-stepping once again. 

[Tahoma 2,292]

2 hours ago, PWB said:

IRS Filing can verify that you are currently single, but will not be helpful in proving that you have never been married.  CFO is over-stepping once again. 

You’re right.  However, the CFO really doesn’t want to know whether you’ve ever been married.  They want to know if you’re currently married, and a tax return doesn’t prove that either.

 

Years ago, there was a CFO employee that kept asking for proof that you weren’t married. It seems that there is another one now.  Back then, submitting your tax return solved the problem.

 

If the petitioner is a Pinoy who became a U.S. citizen, or is someone who has a Pinoy-sounding name, the CFO might be looking for a CENOMAR.

 

The CFO would be unnecessary if the U.S. Embassy simply handed out what-to-do-in-case-of-abuse flyers to each visa applicant.