Bill Introduced to Require Vaccines on all US Flights

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11 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

As far as the first paragraph goes I asked for proof that vaccines and masks save lives.

 

 

Not what the (Chicom run) WHO, FDA, CDC, ect say is the case.

 I havent heard the term Chicom since Archie Bunker

 

11 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

 

 

As far as the rest of it goes I never made any of the claims you listed and I am asking specifically what evidence you have that the covid vaccine and masks save lives.

Mask Debate

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32527856/

https://gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/5/e002794.full.pdf

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32335167/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32543923/

 

Here is a great graphic on how masks work

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/30/science/wear-mask-covid-particles-ul.html

 

After you digest that let me know and I will load you up on vaccine studies

 

11 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

 

The last two paragraphs are just a deflection from the fact that you haven't provided any direct evidence to back up your claim that the covid vaccine and masks save lives.

That last two paragraphs stand on their own and were a debate before Covid-19. What say ye?  Are your children vaccinated?

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I believe I have read what is possibly THE most asinine post ever in the history of VJ.  And that says a LOT.

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I believe I have read a post from someone who has been around for a lot of history of VJ.

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On 8/11/2021 at 5:24 PM, jg121783 said:

What's your proof that they do save lives? You made the initial claim. Now back it up.

Something like 97-99% of people dying now from covid are unvaccinated. I think that says something about the vaccinated..

On 8/11/2021 at 4:58 PM, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Cowardice in my book is not being able to stomach the risk of the vaccine to save peoples lives, in particular to save the youngest and oldest, the most vulnerable among us.

Cowardice is being afraid to wear a mask because you might actually help save lives.

Cowardice is being afraid making an active choice to manage  informed risks

Paranoia in my book is thinking that Bill Gates or Dr Fauci or Joe Biden or the leaders at the CDC sit up a night conniving new ways to take away you personal rights and freedoms for no reason than they have an agenda to make Americans docile servants in their master scheme to control your life. < correction not paranoia, just BS crazy.

Being a sheeple is listening to just a few voices from left or right leaning ( or paranoid leaning) sources and being afraid of good reporting and good science,

I like you. 

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On 8/11/2021 at 4:24 PM, jg121783 said:

What's your proof that they do save lives? You made the initial claim. Now back it up

This is my 10 year old’s tactic…throw out some spurious rambling pulled out of thin air. Get asked on validity but push back on me “no! You prove that I’m wrong”

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On 8/10/2021 at 1:02 PM, radharose said:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4980/all-info?r=8&s=4

 

 

Being owned by the Libs….

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8 hours ago, Luckycuds said:

Something like 97-99% of people dying now from covid are unvaccinated. I think that says something about the vaccinated..

All that says is you are pulling numbers out of Fraudci's rear end. Can you back that claim up?

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23 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

All that says is you are pulling numbers out of Fraudci's rear end. Can you back that claim up?

Fauci has no credibility anymore since he became a politician instead of a scientist.

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47 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Fauci has no credibility anymore since he became a politician instead of a scientist.

He has been a politician most of his career. When is the last time he actually saw a patient?

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29 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

He has been a politician most of his career. When is the last time he actually saw a patient?

A deep state bureaucratic manager.

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On 8/11/2021 at 6:32 PM, jg121783 said:

As far as the first paragraph goes I asked for proof that vaccines and masks save lives. Not what the (Chicom run) WHO, FDA, CDC, ect say is the case. As far as the rest of it goes I never made any of the claims you listed and I am asking specifically what evidence you have that the covid vaccine and masks save lives. The last two paragraphs are just a deflection from the fact that you haven't provided any direct evidence to back up your claim that the covid vaccine and masks save lives.

Just as a PSA from many years of learning the hard way. Chicom  is a big bad no no word if I recall 

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2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

All that says is you are pulling numbers out of Fraudci's rear end. Can you back that claim up?

How would you like me to back that claim up? What -or whose- statistics would you actually believe? Because a quick google search can easily find those facts. I could tell you as a health care worker the deaths are in the unvaccinated but I bet you wouldn’t rely on my first hand knowledge either. The virus doesn’t care what your political affiliation is. https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

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17 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

How would you like me to back that claim up? What -or whose- statistics would you actually believe? Because a quick google search can easily find those facts. I could tell you as a health care worker the deaths are in the unvaccinated but I bet you wouldn’t rely on my first hand knowledge either. The virus doesn’t care what your political affiliation is. https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

Agree its hard to know what to believe, but I would think the fact the vast vast majority of hospitalizations and ICU admits are unvaccinated proves the vaccine, although not 100% is having a big impact

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43 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

How would you like me to back that claim up? What -or whose- statistics would you actually believe? Because a quick google search can easily find those facts. I could tell you as a health care worker the deaths are in the unvaccinated but I bet you wouldn’t rely on my first hand knowledge either. The virus doesn’t care what your political affiliation is. https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

My wife works in healthcare too. She tells me a vast majority of people she sees getting sick are vaccinated people. Think I'll rely on my wife's first hand knowledge over someone on an internet message board.

 

24 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Agree its hard to know what to believe, but I would think the fact the vast vast majority of hospitalizations and ICU admits are unvaccinated proves the vaccine, although not 100% is having a big impact

How about not believing anything and looking at the facts? I have yet to see any actual statistics showing 99% of covid cases are vaccinated people. In fact reports from other countries seem to suggest the opposite.

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29 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

My wife works in healthcare too. She tells me a vast majority of people she sees getting sick are vaccinated people. Think I'll rely on my wife's first hand knowledge over someone on an internet message board.

 

How about not believing anything and looking at the facts? I have yet to see any actual statistics showing 99% of covid cases are vaccinated people. In fact reports from other countries seem to suggest the opposite.

I agree. There are no stats showing the majority are vaccinated. Quite the opposite actually