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So, I know this topic has been talked ad nauseam, but I came across the USCIS website that specifically states that I can send a photocopy:

 

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/how-do-i-guides/us-citizens/how-do-i-obtain-an-authenticated-copy-of-a-certificate-of-naturalization

 

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You do not need to obtain a Certified True Copy if the U.S. government asks for a copy of your certificate for official U.S. government business. For example, if the U.S. Department of State requests your Certificate of Naturalization when you apply for a U.S. passport, you may use a normal photocopy that has not been authenticated. You may use a normal photocopy of your certificate for legitimate U.S. government business. 

 

So, is this new? Can I send the application with just the two photocopies? I'd hate to send the original and then it gets lost or something.

 

Thank you.

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05/19/2016 [Day 0] - Filed I-130/I-485/EAD/AP

05/22/2016 [Day 3] - Package arrived at Chicago Lockbox and signed by R Mercado

05/23/2016 [Day 4] - Priority date sent on my NOA1 emails

05/27/2016 [Day 8] - Biometric fee received date (Checked on the website)

05/31/2016 [Day 12] - Checks cashed

06/01/2016 [Day 13] - x4 NOA1 emails and text received

06/04/2016 [Day 16] - x4 NOA1 Letters received with the A number and Priority Date

06/10/2016 [Day 22] - Biometrics letter received in the mail

06/13/2016 [Day 25] - Biometrics appointment early walk-in, Alexandria, VA

06/22/2016 [Day 34] - Biometrics appointment scheduled

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08/24/2016 [Day 97] - EAD on hand!

12/09/2016 [Day 205] - Interview date

02/16/2017 [Day 273] - GC Approval date

02/24/2017 [Day 281] - GC on hand

 

 

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02/05/2019 [Day 0] - Filed I-751 RoC

02/06/2019 [Day 1] - Package arrived at Lewisville Lockbox (Received date shown in I-797)

02/08/2019 [Day 3] - Receipt date of I-797 NOA

02/11/2019 [Day 6] - Received SMS with case number

02/12/2019 [Day 7] - Check cashed

02/15/2019 [Day 10] - Received I-797 NOA Extending Green card for 18 months dated 2/8/2019

09/04/2019 [Day 211] - Biometrics appointment

03/10/2020 [Day 399] - 10 Year GC Approved, no interview

 

 

N400

 

10/11/2020 [Day 0] - Filed N-400 Naturalization

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7 minutes ago, bokins said:

Can I send the application with just the two photocopies?

DOS is the one that issues passports so you have to follow their policy: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/citizenship-evidence.html

Tips for submitting your citizenship evidence

  • Submit your original evidence of U.S. citizenship.
  • Submit a photocopy of the front (and back, if there is printed information) of your original evidence of U.S. citizenship.
  • Photocopies must be: legible, on white 8.5”x11” standard paper, black and white, and single sided.
  • In some cases, you may be able to submit a certified copy of your citizenship evidence. A certified copy is any document that has the seal or stamp of the official issuing authority.
  • If you don't want to submit a photocopy of your citizenship evidence, you may submit a second certified copy of your citizenship evidence, which we will keep. If you don’t submit a photocopy or a second certified copy of your citizenship evidence, your passport processing could be delayed.
  • You cannot submit digital evidence of U.S. citizenship (e.g. electronic or mobile birth certificate) when applying for a U.S. passport. You must continue to submit your physical evidence of U.S. citizenship and a photocopy of it.
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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7 minutes ago, HRQX said:

DOS is the one that issues passports so you have to follow their policy: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/citizenship-evidence.html

Yes, I'm aware, I was just hopeful lol. I took the Oath today, welcome to American bureaucracy lmao

AOS

Spoiler

 

05/19/2016 [Day 0] - Filed I-130/I-485/EAD/AP

05/22/2016 [Day 3] - Package arrived at Chicago Lockbox and signed by R Mercado

05/23/2016 [Day 4] - Priority date sent on my NOA1 emails

05/27/2016 [Day 8] - Biometric fee received date (Checked on the website)

05/31/2016 [Day 12] - Checks cashed

06/01/2016 [Day 13] - x4 NOA1 emails and text received

06/04/2016 [Day 16] - x4 NOA1 Letters received with the A number and Priority Date

06/10/2016 [Day 22] - Biometrics letter received in the mail

06/13/2016 [Day 25] - Biometrics appointment early walk-in, Alexandria, VA

06/22/2016 [Day 34] - Biometrics appointment scheduled

07/12/2016 [Day 54] - Case updated online, RFIE I-485, I-864 proof of income (for real?)

07/16/2016 [Day 58] - Received RFIE yellow letter

07/26/2016 [Day 68] - Touch

07/28/2016 [Day 70] - Response to RFIE sent

07/30/2016 [Day 72] - Response to RFIE delivered

08/02/2016 [Day 75] - Response to RFIE received

08/11/2016 [Day 84] - EAD and AP approved, card being produced YASSS!!!

08/24/2016 [Day 97] - EAD on hand!

12/09/2016 [Day 205] - Interview date

02/16/2017 [Day 273] - GC Approval date

02/24/2017 [Day 281] - GC on hand

 

 

ROC

Spoiler

 

02/05/2019 [Day 0] - Filed I-751 RoC

02/06/2019 [Day 1] - Package arrived at Lewisville Lockbox (Received date shown in I-797)

02/08/2019 [Day 3] - Receipt date of I-797 NOA

02/11/2019 [Day 6] - Received SMS with case number

02/12/2019 [Day 7] - Check cashed

02/15/2019 [Day 10] - Received I-797 NOA Extending Green card for 18 months dated 2/8/2019

09/04/2019 [Day 211] - Biometrics appointment

03/10/2020 [Day 399] - 10 Year GC Approved, no interview

 

 

N400

 

10/11/2020 [Day 0] - Filed N-400 Naturalization

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Myanmar
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Everything I’ve rest is that when it comes to passports and naturalization certificates, DoS doesn’t follow their own publisher rules for mail in applications.  
 

You might be able to make an appointment with a passport agency office and they might let you escape leaving a photo copy after examining the original.  But getting such appointments in the eta of Covid is hard.  

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Hi guys.  Wondering the same.  If I go to a passport accepting agency like USPS or county clerk office fo they keep the original naturalization cert or just compare it to the photocopy (non certified) that  you  bring ?

 

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15 minutes ago, Can49 said:

If I go to a passport accepting agency like USPS or county clerk office fo they keep the original naturalization cert

They still forward both the original certificate and the photocopy to DOS. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/apply-in-person.html

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How will you send my passport and supporting documents?

 

After we print your passport, we will send it to you and return your supporting documents. How we send your passport and supporting documents depends if you applied for a book and/or a card and if you paid an additional fee for 1-2 day delivery.    

I applied for a passport book only: You may receive your newly-issued passport and your citizenship documents in two separate mailings. Please contact the National Passport Information Center (NPIC) if you do not receive a second mailing within 10 business days of receiving the first. We can send your passport book via a 1-2 day delivery service.

I applied for a passport card only: You may receive your newly-issued passport card and your citizenship documents in two separate mailings. Please contact NPIC if you do not receive a second mailing within 10 business days of receiving the first. We only send the passport card via First Class Mail. We do not send cards via 1-2 day delivery services.

I applied for both a passport book and passport card: You may receive three separate mailings; one with your citizenship documents, one with your newly-issued passport book, and one with your newly-issued passport card. Please contact NPIC if you do not receive the second or third mailing within 10 business days of the previous mailing.

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Apply in Person

 

You must apply in person using Form DS-11 if at least one of the following is true:

  • You are applying for your first U.S. passport
  • You are under age 16
  • Your previous U.S. passport was issued when you were under age 16
  • Your previous U.S. passport was lost, stolen, or damaged
  • Your previous U.S. passport was issued more than 15 years ago

 

Like Mike E mentioned, if you somehow go to a DOS passport agency office then you keep the original certificate. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/get-fast/passport-agencies.html

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