US plans to require COVID-19 shots for foreign travelers

[yuna628 9,665]

Just now, LIBrty4all said:

I do. And as such, know you are making stuff up. 

Oh, so you're saying that the medical requirements for a variety of visas are in error? Well you'd have to take that up with the US government, and not me.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

6 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Oh, so you're saying that the medical requirements for a variety of visas are in error? Well you'd have to take that up with the US government, and not me.

No, I am saying you are making up the requirements as you post.  What vaccinations are required of visa applicants that are not required of USC?

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

10 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

No, I am saying you are making up the requirements as you post.  What vaccinations are required of visa applicants that are not required of USC?

It sounds like you are unfamiliar with vaccines and immigration, or maybe the rules for the Guyanese are different. 

[yuna628 9,665]

13 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

No, I am saying you are making up the requirements as you post.  What vaccinations are required of visa applicants that are not required of USC?

You know the vaccines that are on the required list, you can find that list on VJ itself. I'm not going to waste my time listing them for you.

 

There is no law in the US that states any of those vaccinations are required of the US citizen to live in the US. When it comes to entry into public/private school settings a state may require mandatory compliance, however as we know quite well there are a plethora of exemptions - and in general a parent that is entirely anti-vax will not put their children into a situation where such questions would arise to begin with. I know people precisely like this. As a result there are millions of individuals without vaccinations that are required of immigrants entering into the US on a variety of visas, and that includes some people who have never had a vaccination in their entire life to the detriment of their health and those around them. 

 

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The rise in parents opting out has caused the AMA grave concern, with many experts decrying the rise of so-called "exemptions of convenience." In some areas, nearly one out of five children have not received their recommended vaccines. The consequences are serious not only for those unprotected children, but for the rest of society as well. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15568260/

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by yuna628

[yuna628 9,665]

2 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

It sounds like you are unfamiliar with vaccines and immigration, or maybe the rules for the Guyanese are different. 

Meh I dunno maybe there's people on VJ that magically managed to bring themselves or their immigrant spouse to the US without having to comply with the xray, genital exam (when it existed, I hear they dialed that back now), and jabby stabby stab in the arms or any paperwork or background checks whatsoever. More power to 'em I guess...

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Millions, eh?  That seems like a lot.

Of (increased) hyperbole.

 

Unvaccinated against WHAT, exactly?

 

Also, please note that there is a HUGE difference between not being vaccinated and not opting for an experimental (NON-FDA-APPROVED) shot today.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

49 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Meh I dunno maybe there's people on VJ that magically managed to bring themselves or their immigrant spouse to the US without having to comply with the xray, genital exam (when it existed, I hear they dialed that back now), and jabby stabby stab in the arms or any paperwork or background checks whatsoever. More power to 'em I guess...

Magic, seriously? 

When my spouse immigrated here, all that was required was a TB test.  Seems the country of departure already had enough vaccinations to suffice.

Edited August 6, 2021 by LIBrty4all

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

2 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

Magic, seriously? 

When my spouse immigrated here, all that was required was a TB test.  Seems the country of departure already had enough vaccinations to suffice.

Just in case someone on this site has read this disinformation above. You cannot immigrate to the US with just a TB test. You will need to be current on several vaccines. Please refer to the guidance from the CDC below:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/about/medical-exam-faqs.html#three

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

Determining the Vaccines the Applicant Needs

The following is a list of diseases for which applicants must show proof of having age-appropriate vaccinations or immunity in order to immigrate to the United States:

• Diphtheria
• Tetanus
• Pertussis
• Polio
• Measles
• Mumps
• Rubella
• Rotavirus

• Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
• Hepatitis A
• Hepatitis B
• Meningococcal disease
• Varicella
• Pneumococcal disease
• Influenza

[Dashinka 24,437]

10 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

We are taking our third covid era trip to Canada  next week and we will not get in without the vaccine, a negative test within 72 hours and another test on entry. Our citizenship provides no exemption. It just seems like common sense. When I come home to the US (land crossing), no one asks any basic screening questions and provide no guidance on quarantine or testing.  

 

We are way to lax imo. 

 

 

 

Hopefully you don't end up with a false positive test.

[Dashinka 24,437]

9 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Meh I dunno maybe there's people on VJ that magically managed to bring themselves or their immigrant spouse to the US without having to comply with the xray, genital exam (when it existed, I hear they dialed that back now), and jabby stabby stab in the arms or any paperwork or background checks whatsoever. More power to 'em I guess...

Umm, you do know that there is a vaccine waiver available for intending immigrants, so spreading the mis-information that an intending immigrant has no choice is irresponsible; after-all this is an immigration board.  Now, most people will chose not to add this additional hoop to their already frustrating immigration process, but it is there.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-9-part-d-chapter-3

[jg121783 3,909]

10 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

You are afraid of the vaccine, and that is not paranoia?

Just don't like the fact that I have to disclose private medical information and take an experimental medical treatment in order to travel because some are paranoid about a virus with over a 99% survival rate. Besides if you have the vaccine and its effective you should have nothing to worry about. If on the other hand it is not effective there is really no reason to force it on everyone. And don't parrot the Fraudci nonsense that 99% of covid cases are unvaccinated people because the numbers actually show a majority of covid cases are among vaccinated people.

 

10 hours ago, yuna628 said:

To enter the USA on a variety of visas, immigrants are required to subject themselves to all manner of medical exams, tests, and vaccinations whether they like it or not. They are required to jump through a million hoops, bureaucracy, background checks - all without a choice. Immigrants are more vaccinated (without a choice) than US citizens. And US citizens will also have to start getting used to vaccine, testing, or quarantine requirements of other countries too. I'm fine with the requirement if that's what gets air travel moving again. Goodness knows we haven't seen our family in quite some time now.

I was born in the US and don't have to enter on any visas so this is not applicable to me and is a deflection off the issue we are discussing.

[jg121783 3,909]

Here's the deal. We can go back to the eugenics system of the early 1900s that Hitler modeled his regime after where the state can force experimental treatments on you or we can stick with the post WWII Nuremberg codes where the world decided that type of behavior is criminal and unacceptable. I guess the choice is up to us as a society.

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

16 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Word is Biden wants to impose a vaccine mandate for anyone who wants to fly US citizen or not. We are planning a trip to visit my wife's family next year or as soon as the Philippines lifts their covid restrictions. She hasn't seen them in 5 years and they have never met our 3 year old but if vaccines are gonna be required we aren't going I guess.

Us too. I bet when it opens up tickets will be $$$$$

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

11 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Meh I dunno maybe there's people on VJ that magically managed to bring themselves or their immigrant spouse to the US without having to comply with the xray, genital exam (when it existed, I hear they dialed that back now), and jabby stabby stab in the arms or any paperwork or background checks whatsoever. More power to 'em I guess...

We had 2 physicals if I recall and several vaccinations