US plans to require COVID-19 shots for foreign travelers

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

41 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

So you are saying that the mask you wear, which is for MY benefit, stops all droplets?  And that is why you believe in them with what borders on religious fanatacism?

 

Don't you think that SOME of your droplets escape AROUND the mask?  Haven't you worn your mask outside in the cold?

Obviously 99 % of the mask types and how they are put on do not provide 100% protection, but they reduce risks.  Reducing transmission rates are the goal. 

 

The science proves that and the common sense of not having someones spittle broadcast to everyone in a pandemic is obvious, but not obvious enough I guess. 

 

So back to the question, if the goal is to filter out virus laden moist droplets which the masks have shown to help, why are you debating filters for the virus alone and airborne, which never happens? 

 

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

So you are saying that the mask you wear, which is for MY benefit, stops all droplets?  And that is why you believe in them with what borders on religious fanatacism?

 

Don't you think that SOME of your droplets escape AROUND the mask?  Haven't you worn your mask outside in the cold?

It slows the spread. Never claimed to stop it. Kinda like a seat belt. It's just a tool. 

[Lemonslice 4,710]

On 8/8/2021 at 12:12 AM, TBoneTX said:

If you're prohibited from living your life freely if you don't do what the authoritarians (of government or business or the military) say, then they're forced.

The audacity of the health authorities in my state, forcing restaurant employees to wash their hands before handling food, or using the toilets, or just because I guess.  Unbelievable.   Their employers have to keep their refrigators cold, and their kitchens or they get fined. Plus, it's not like they wash their hands like surgeons, nor their kitchens like ORs, so who knows how many germs are still left 🤢  🤮 
Then, another department had me pay to get a licence to drive my own car, plus registration for that car. And get insurance.  Plus inspection to make sure I have breaks, I guess. Land of the free lol.  

 

 

 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

8 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

It slows the spread. Never claimed to stop it. Kinda like a seat belt. It's just a tool. 

Yes, that is correct.  Slows.  But some seem to think it prevents spread.

 

I know of a few other tools...

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 minute ago, Lemonslice said:

The audacity of the health authorities in my state, forcing restaurant employees to wash their hands before handling food, or using the toilets, or just because I guess.  Unbelievable.   Their employers have to keep their refrigators cold, and their kitchens or they get fined. Plus, it's not like they wash their hands like surgeons, nor their kitchens like ORs, so who knows how many germs are still left 🤢  🤮 
Then, another department had me pay to get a licence to drive my own car, plus registration for that car. And get insurance.  Plus inspection to make sure I have breaks, I guess. Land of the free lol.  

And yet, you seem to be one of those who want to give away more of your freedoms during this pandemic.  The more we roll over and just accept, the more we will find them pushing on us.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

2 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Yes, that is correct.  Slows.  But some seem to think it prevents spread.

 

I know of a few other tools...

Are you calling me a tool.? Reported 

[laylalex 7,282]

4 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

The audacity of the health authorities in my state, forcing restaurant employees to wash their hands before handling food, or using the toilets, or just because I guess.  Unbelievable.   Their employers have to keep their refrigators cold, and their kitchens or they get fined. Plus, it's not like they wash their hands like surgeons, nor their kitchens like ORs, so who knows how many germs are still left 🤢  🤮 
Then, another department had me pay to get a licence to drive my own car, plus registration for that car. And get insurance.  Plus inspection to make sure I have breaks, I guess. Land of the free lol.  

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Just now, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Are you calling me a tool.? Reported 

Of course not.  Tools are useful things.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

Just now, LIBrty4all said:

Of course not.  Tools are useful things.

You win lol. That was strong ma'am 

[TBoneTX 44,669]

Perfect solution would be for the leftist Robespierres to install guillotines and do away with the unvaccinated before the latter can potentially infect anybody.  Problem solved.

[Dashinka 24,109]

11 hours ago, laylalex said:

Is there an actual point to this meme?  We are not required to get a license to be a USC?  Are you suggesting USC should be stripped from anyone that does not follow the edicts from the unelected bureaucrats such as Drs. Fauci, Collins, or the CDC director (forgot her name and have no desire to search for it)?  Feel free to give up your freedom and live your life in a bubble.

Edited August 10, 2021 by Dashinka

[Dashinka 24,109]

13 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Obviously 99 % of the mask types and how they are put on do not provide 100% protection, but they reduce risks.  Reducing transmission rates are the goal. 

 

The science proves that and the common sense of not having someones spittle broadcast to everyone in a pandemic is obvious, but not obvious enough I guess. 

 

So back to the question, if the goal is to filter out virus laden moist droplets which the masks have shown to help, why are you debating filters for the virus alone and airborne, which never happens? 

 

 

So you are an expert on filtration efficiency?

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

So you are an expert on filtration efficiency?

Did I say that? No. It's common sense.

[Dashinka 24,109]

3 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Did I say that? No. It's common sense.

Nothing about filtration efficiency testing is common sense.  Not all exhaled particles/droplets are the same size, and masks have a definitive filtration efficiency.  Most simple single layer filters will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 12 microns at 98% efficient, and that drops off rapidly as the particles get smaller where at around 8 micron, the efficiency drops off to around 50%.  With the myriad of materials used for filters, it is hard to really say how much exhaled material will be captured, I expect some, but there will also be quite a bit of material that passes through.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Nothing about filtration efficiency testing is common sense.  Not all exhaled particles/droplets are the same size, and masks have a definitive filtration efficiency.  Most simple single layer filters will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 12 microns at 98% efficient, and that drops off rapidly as the particles get smaller where at around 8 micron, the efficiency drops off to around 50%.  With the myriad of materials used for filters, it is hard to really say how much exhaled material will be captured, I expect some, but there will also be quite a bit of material that passes through.

You are wasting your time.  But so do I, though I doubt doubling up will cause anyone to change their minds here in CEHST.  At least you can rest easy knowing what you know.