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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jordan
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12 hours ago, Timona said:

This is up to debate here on VJ. Mine said the same. I followed exactly what it said and went alone. That was 4 weeks ago for my N400 interview. I was not even asked where my spouse was. 

 

Unrelated, but @debbiedoo I have not seen you in a looooong while. I hope you are of great health

N400 isn't a joint petition, you're comparing apples to oranges.


Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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13 hours ago, Timona said:

This is up to debate here on VJ. Mine said the same. I followed exactly what it said and went alone. That was 4 weeks ago for my N400 interview. I was not even asked where my spouse was. 

 

Unrelated, but @debbiedoo I have not seen you in a looooong while. I hope you are of great health

we are doing really really well, thank you. 3 year anniversary coming up this christmas :)

 

life is good, quiet here on our farm with the dogs. the city boy from toronto turned into a livestock farmer. who'd have thunk it? 120 acres of chaos. LOL

i 485, 130, EAD and AP

04/09/2019    NOA1 received/check cashed i 485 and 130 (direct adjustment)

11/7/2019      Interview- Norfolk

11/10/2019    APPROVED (notification rec'd 11/10, approval dated 11/8)

DONE FOR TWO YEARS!!! ;)

 

Filed everything ourselves with no RFE's or delays.

 

CR1 for Child under 21 (20 at time of filing)- Filed by LPR Spouse for his son

4/4/20     Mailed packet

4/12/20   NOA1 rec'd

10/14/21 (havent heard anything... when do i start to get worried?)

9/15/22 APPROVED! Now to wait for NVC and interview....

 

ROC

10/14/21 Mailed to AZ PO Box. Let the waiting begin. Again.

10/16/21 Received at PO Box

10/19/21 Received Text NOA1

10/23/21 Received Mailed NOA1

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Kenya
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Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Ecaen87 said:

N400 interviews are exclusively for the petitioner. ROC interviews filed jointly, both the petitioner and the spouse must attend.

Understood 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ghana
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Posted (edited)

A few apparently have gone without the spouse and been successful. Some even were approved without an interview in many cases. But then why risk things at this stage when the immigration process in itself is already fraught with pitfalls even when you do everything by the letter?

 

The minor inconvenience of getting your spouse to go with you in my opinion is more than worth the world of hurt one can get into IF the interviewer insists on having him/her there. Could lead to a postponement, RFE, or in an extreme case NOID.

 

Just go with the spouse!

Edited by African Zealot

Just another random guy from the internet with an opinion, although usually backed by data!


ᴀ ᴄɪᴛɪᴢᴇɴ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ 

 

 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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16 hours ago, Ecaen87 said:

N400 interviews are exclusively for the petitioner. ROC interviews filed jointly, both the petitioner and the spouse must attend.

 

16 hours ago, Scandi said:

Was going to say that too, the N-400 is completely different from the i-751. The N-400 does not require the US spouse even if filed under the 3 year rule, they will in almost all cases actually ask the US spouse to leave or stay in the waiting room if s/he comes to the office with the petitioner.

Is that definitely true? I've seen posts that were adamant that the spouse must attend the N400 as well, even if not called but just in case, if filing under the 3 year rule. 

 

I'll be filing my N400 in about a month, and our FO is a 4.5 hour drive one way. It'd be A LOT easier if only one had to go for the interview and the other stayed home with the kid and dog and all that. But I'd also be very frustrated to show up and be told that they can't make a decision because my spouse needs to be there to arrest to something. 

2015-11-23: Last TN received at CBP

2017-06-12: Married

2018-06-25: Mailed I-485, I-864, I-130/I-130A, and I-765 to USCIS

2018-07-24: Biometrics appointment

2018-08-28: Expedite request submitted for EAD via USCIS support line

2018-09-21: EAD and SSN received in the mail

2018-10-31: Interview is scheduled

2018-11-21: Last TN expired

2018-12-11: AOS Interview - Card is being produced

2018-12-18: Green Card received

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2020-09-23: Mailed I-751 to USCIS

2020-10-03: 18-month extension NOA 

2020-10-15: Biometrics from AOS applied to ROC

2020-12-11: Conditional green card expired 

2021-05-17: Card is being produced

2021-05-24: Green Card received

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2021-09-14: Online application for N-400

2022-05-04: Interview is scheduled

2022-06-13: N-400 Interview

2022-06-13: Immediate oath & naturalization certificate!

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, eckoin said:

 

Is that definitely true? I've seen posts that were adamant that the spouse must attend the N400 as well, even if not called but just in case, if filing under the 3 year rule. 

 

I'll be filing my N400 in about a month, and our FO is a 4.5 hour drive one way. It'd be A LOT easier if only one had to go for the interview and the other stayed home with the kid and dog and all that. But I'd also be very frustrated to show up and be told that they can't make a decision because my spouse needs to be there to arrest to something. 

I think you are referring to combo interviews. When you file N400 and your ROC is pending, if by the time your N400 interview is scheduled, If ROC is still pending, then is very likely they conduct a combo interview where first they interview both spouses for the ROC part and for Naturalization they only interview the petitioner. No matter what I have never heard a naturalization interview where the spouse is required to attend.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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1 minute ago, Ecaen87 said:

I think you are referring to combo interviews. When you file N400 and your ROC is pending, if by the time your N400 interview is scheduled, If ROC is still pending, then is very likely they conduct a combo interview where first they interview both spouses for the ROC portion and for Naturalization they only interview the petitioner. No matter what I have never heard a naturalization interview where the spouse is required to attend.

No I'm definitely thinking of a standalone N400 but based on the marriage clause, so 3 year rule. However, this was based on a VJ search overall, so some of those threads were from 10 years ago. 

 

So N400 is my application, regardless of under which condition I apply? I reviewed the required evidence, and it's very similar to ROC in terms of proof you're still married and all that, so it didn't seem like a stretch to have USCIS demand we're both there. 

2015-11-23: Last TN received at CBP

2017-06-12: Married

2018-06-25: Mailed I-485, I-864, I-130/I-130A, and I-765 to USCIS

2018-07-24: Biometrics appointment

2018-08-28: Expedite request submitted for EAD via USCIS support line

2018-09-21: EAD and SSN received in the mail

2018-10-31: Interview is scheduled

2018-11-21: Last TN expired

2018-12-11: AOS Interview - Card is being produced

2018-12-18: Green Card received

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2020-09-23: Mailed I-751 to USCIS

2020-10-03: 18-month extension NOA 

2020-10-15: Biometrics from AOS applied to ROC

2020-12-11: Conditional green card expired 

2021-05-17: Card is being produced

2021-05-24: Green Card received

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2021-09-14: Online application for N-400

2022-05-04: Interview is scheduled

2022-06-13: N-400 Interview

2022-06-13: Immediate oath & naturalization certificate!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Sweden
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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, eckoin said:

 

Is that definitely true? I've seen posts that were adamant that the spouse must attend the N400 as well, even if not called but just in case, if filing under the 3 year rule. 

 

I'll be filing my N400 in about a month, and our FO is a 4.5 hour drive one way. It'd be A LOT easier if only one had to go for the interview and the other stayed home with the kid and dog and all that. But I'd also be very frustrated to show up and be told that they can't make a decision because my spouse needs to be there to arrest to something. 

Haven't yet seen a single case where the US spouse was required to be at the N-400 interview unless there was also a pending i-751.

 

Have however seen several cases where the US spouse did show up and was turned away at the door. My own husband too, he was sent down from the 6th floor to wait in the lobby on the first floor, wasn't even allowed in the USCIS waiting room.

Edited by Scandi

K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

U.S. passport: 03-30-2021 - 05-08-2021

En livstid i krig. Göteborg killed it. Epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBs3G1PvyfM&ab_channel=Sabaton

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Heri4me2 said:

from what I understand the USC spouse does not need to attend because he or she is already a citizen. 

For joint ROC, both must attend.

On 8/4/2021 at 4:55 PM, HRQX said:

the law is explicitly clear; see INA 216(c)(1)(B): "in accordance with subsection (d)(3), the alien spouse and the petitioning spouse (if not deceased) must appear for a personal interview before an officer or employee of the Department of Homeland Security respecting the facts and information described in subsection (d)(1)."

Posted

ROC joint filing-- even if the recent letters do not state the spouse has to attend, people have reported being asked about it. My letter (earlier this year, for April interview) did state to bring my spouse, so I am guessing the interviewers may not be aware yet that recent letters do not state the need to bring their spouse. Given how long most people have been waiting, I really think it is a good idea to bring your spouse. What is the worst that can happen other than the spouse having to sit and wait for nothing? 

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Hey all, just an update to "close the loop". Brought my spouse with me for my ROC interview, and we were BOTH expected by all staff members (the security guards jokingly asked "Ready for your interview?", likely guessing from our formal clothing).

 

Interview was about 45 minutes, officer was professional and went through the i-751 form, then asked standard unobtrusive questions (who does the groceries/pays for trips/plans for children etc.). The officer handed us a receipt for our appointment, but would not say anything other than "you will receive a letter in the post in less than 30 days". I think they are trying to give a more consistent experience to people, so hence the generic response.

 

I felt positive after the interview, and a little over an hour later, my online case updated to "New card is being produced"! 🙌

 

Thanks again to everyone who held answer my questions in this thread -- it was really appreciated. 👍

 
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