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eatphyllosophical   8

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Hi there - I guess I may ask a dumb question but I would rather hear so than do something wrong. I am prepping for ROC and I will Fedex my application. That means I will send it to the office in Phoenix. I would prefer to use credit card to pay the fee so I just wanna double check if I can do that? The Phoenix office can process credit card right? Do you guys recommend me to pay with credit card or check? Thanks!

 

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1 hour ago, Ecaen87 said:

I read so many stories about rejected applications just because they couldn’t process cc payment. It takes a while to get it back. I think it’s just safer to get a cashiers check. Funds are wIthdrawn immediately and are only available to them so no way they can miss it. 

Agree. If you lose your credit card and need to cancel it, the USCIS payment will be declined. Or there's a chance your CC company's fraud filter gets triggered and declines the transaction. Or a bunch of other things that could go wrong. There have been more than a few reports on VJ of credit cards not going through leading to rejected petitions.

 

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Just cut them a check with the exact amount. CC has always been a gamble. You just don't know when your CC issuer flags a transaction as fraud and pause it. Total bs. 

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6 hours ago, aznhouston said:

Just cut them a check with the exact amount. CC has always been a gamble. You just don't know when your CC issuer flags a transaction as fraud and pause it. Total bs. 

I would risk a CC payment (for the 2% cash back) if USCIS processed petitions within a week, and sent them back promptly if the petition is denied rejected like they used to back in the day. It took them 5 weeks to accept our petition in Feb 2021, and I've heard of rejected petitions taking 1-2 to be returned. 

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Amex have USCIS as a 'trusted merchant' (I personally wouldn't trust them to be able to count past ten without removing their socks 😑) so is unlikely to be declined by them. Other card issuers, YMMV...

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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1 hour ago, RamonGomez said:

I would risk a CC payment (for the 2% cash back) if USCIS processed petitions within a week, and sent them back promptly if the petition is denied rejected like they used to back in the day. It took them 5 weeks to accept our petition in Feb 2021, and I've heard of rejected petitions taking 1-2 to be returned. 

 

We also used credit cards for the nice cash back. We filed in April 2021 and got the NOA1s in a month or so. No issues with the CC payment. This was Citi.

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I had no problem with credit card. Probably Amex but might have been Capitol One. 

Nice thing was when the charge occurred, I got an alert on my phone  so I knew right away. 

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I've never had problems with paying by credit card (and having a pending charge from USCIS on my card right now) from the I-129F through AOS and now ROC.

 

You know right away when they charge your card, you can get rewards from it, it's more secure than a check, and you can't accidentally address a credit card to the wrong person because you're just using their form. 

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

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eatphyllosophical   8

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On 7/16/2021 at 5:04 PM, DaveAndAnastasia said:

I've never had problems with paying by credit card (and having a pending charge from USCIS on my card right now) from the I-129F through AOS and now ROC.

 

You know right away when they charge your card, you can get rewards from it, it's more secure than a check, and you can't accidentally address a credit card to the wrong person because you're just using their form.

Hi there thanks a lot! If you don't mind which card did you use? We have only visa or master card

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eatphyllosophical   8

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Sorry for a late response but really appreciate everyone's replies. I still have some time to think about it yet. Cash back would be nice 😁 but I would not risk it for a rejected application. Thanks!

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13 hours ago, eatphyllosophical said:

Hi there thanks a lot! If you don't mind which card did you use? We have only visa or master card

I used a Visa (from Capital One). 

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

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On 7/18/2021 at 6:52 PM, eatphyllosophical said:

Sorry for a late response but really appreciate everyone's replies. I still have some time to think about it yet. Cash back would be nice 😁 but I would not risk it for a rejected application. Thanks!

I read too many rejected applications that were all because of credit card. Considering processing times even to cash the checks are way more than before, I wouldn't risk it just to get cash back. Consider you file and feel relieved that you finally send the package, then wait couple of weeks (it is ~ 2-3 weeks if I am not mistaken), then not hearing anything, and when you are curious and call uscis to ask, you will learn that it is rejected, and they generally can't see why it is rejected so either you wait for the whole package and rejection letter to arrive (~ a month if I am not mistaken), or prepare/print whole package again and send without waiting... It is just too much for a cash back :) Don't get me wrong I am not a fan of checks at all, and find them very old school, and I was very surprised when I first moved to here about why still checks are being used in US being a pioneer in technology, but - uscis doesn't seem to have a proper system to process cards yet, not just yet... I wish there was some kind of self payment/online system. If you have checkbook, I suggest go ahead and use a personal check. If you don't have a checkbook, you can order from the bank online and it is delivered to your door for free (at least it is the case in bank of america). For sure, eventually it is your personal choice, and credit cards are accepted by uscis.

Removal of Conditions

02/06/2021: Filed and package sent

02/10/2021: Received by USCIS

03/18/2021: NOA 1

07/01/2021: Biometrics waived

09/27/2011: Case approved, no interview (K1 visa)

Service Center: WAC

 

 

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