Biden to raise stakes in voting rights battle as his party presses for more

[moxy 1,051]

I feel like we get one shot at this.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-raise-stakes-voting-rights-battle-his-party-presses-more-n1273787?fbclid=IwAR15jm2lwJk1Nu6MYpLpKRGraSswY4oUMsSeeC0GKRFJg-HpoGywanooU-w

[Dashinka 24,110]

One shot to trample the Constitution?  Maybe Old Joe will invoke Jim Eagle again.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

The dems in TX had a shot at it, and walked away.  Gonna be interesting, no doubt, to see what transpires.

Edited July 13, 2021 by LIBrty4all

[Dashinka 24,110]

Old Senile Joe is doubling down on the lies.  I often hear that Trump lied more, not really sure degree matters, but Old Joe is certainly doing his best to make up an perception that he cannot lie more than Trump.

 

Ingraham slams Biden's Philadelphia voter rights speech: 'As usual, liberals are at war with the facts'

 

"I believe I counted four, maybe five lies there. But for the record, the Texas legislation gives poll watchers free movement, except, of course, contrary to what Biden alleged, not when voters are filling out ballots," Ingraham exclaimed. "And forcing poll watchers to stand at such a distance that they couldn't reasonably observe the process would be a criminal offense. You got to have eyes on potential cheating."

 

Ingraham also torched Biden's claims that the Texas bill aims "to make it harder" for Americans to vote, "and if you vote, they want to be able to tell you your vote doesn't count for any reason."

 

"So dramatic, also totally false," she said. "As we pointed out last week, the Texas bill to expand voting hours for all registered voters. And the bill is even lower the population threshold needed for counties to provide additional early voting hours."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ingraham-biden-philadelphia-voter-rights

[moxy 1,051]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Old Senile Joe is doubling down on the lies.

This is what I'm talking about @Cyberfx1024. This is the kind of thing that just shuts down rational discussion.

[Dashinka 24,110]

1 minute ago, moxy said:

This is what I'm talking about @Cyberfx1024. This is the kind of thing that just shuts down rational discussion.

It does?  I seem to remember having a lot of rational discussions with people creating all sorts of names for our last President.  I suppose those were warranted, but enjoy your high horse.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

4 hours ago, moxy said:

This is what I'm talking about @Cyberfx1024. This is the kind of thing that just shuts down rational discussion.

 

So what did it do for the past four years when we saw about 300 different disparaging names used to describe President Trump?

 

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Old Senile Joe is doubling down on the lies.  I often hear that Trump lied more, not really sure degree matters, but Old Joe is certainly doing his best to make up an perception that he cannot lie more than Trump.

 

I don't know if it's early onset dementia, or just senility, but the synapses are not as quick as they once were.  Nothing wrong with getting older and slower, we are all doing it.  But should someone with this amount of obvious elder issues be handling the nuclear football for the US?

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,367]

we should have to show an ID, give a reason for an absentee vote. Also no early voting.

 

That is very draconian, much like Delaware Biden's home state 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,367]

The Blue States That Make It Hardest to Vote

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/democrats-voting-rights-contradiction/618599/

 

[Dashinka 24,110]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

The Blue States That Make It Hardest to Vote

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/democrats-voting-rights-contradiction/618599/

 

But Joe said these "red state" laws are the greatest threat since the Civil War.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

On 7/13/2021 at 12:49 PM, moxy said:

I feel like we get one shot at this.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-raise-stakes-voting-rights-battle-his-party-presses-more-n1273787?fbclid=IwAR15jm2lwJk1Nu6MYpLpKRGraSswY4oUMsSeeC0GKRFJg-HpoGywanooU-w

I think he is just posturing in order to try and get the "For the people Act" to pass. Which tbh I hope never passes at all. 

Also what is up with many Democrats loving voter ids now?

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

46 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I think he is just posturing in order to try and get the "For the people Act" to pass. Which tbh I hope never passes at all. 

Also what is up with many Democrats loving voter ids now?

Do you really need to ask?  Many people realize that what happened in the past election was something that we should never to allow to happen again.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

At some point it will become apparent, as it is to many people in the country already, that the Republican party is not interested in more people voting. Not specifically people of color, or liberals or Democrats ( although there are some factions that are driving for the hoop on those items) just everyday people.  

 

The reason for that is simple math. Older people vote and tend to favor conservative views and candidates.  Off cycle elections favor conservative and Republicans, because, retired folks have the time and inclination to vote. 
The demographic tsunamis are going to upset that applecart for Republicans.  The Republicans who understand that and are trying a broader appeal on the issues, are being shouted down by super "patriots", tea partiers and dirty tricksters.  The true leaders in the Republican party have to go along or get primaried/censured.  The attack on Liz Cheney, no socialist there, is exhibit A in how desperate and down the toilet the Republican party is.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by Crtcl Rice Theory

[Dashinka 24,110]

19 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

At some point it will become apparent, as it is to many people in the country already, that the Republican party is not interested in more people voting. Not specifically people of color, or liberals or Democrats ( although there are some factions that are driving for the hoop on those items) just everyday people.  

 

The reason for that is simple math. Older people vote and tend to favor conservative views and candidates.  Off cycle elections favor conservative and Republicans, because, retired folks have the time and inclination to vote. 
The demographic tsunamis are going to upset that applecart for Republicans.  The Republicans who understand that and are trying a broader appeal on the issues, are being shouted down by super "patriots", tea partiers and dirty tricksters.  The true leaders in the Republican party have to go along or get primaried/censured.  The attack on Liz Cheney, no socialist there, is exhibit A in how desperate and down the toilet the Republican party is.

 

 

Narratives are just that.  The laws that Joe Biden is calling the worst threat to our country actually expand voting access to almost anyone.  These laws were needed in order to codify the best things that were done last year and eliminate the things that aren’t needed.  Do we really need 24hr polling places?  In all the stories I see about this issue, no one can seem to elaborate why increasing voting access restricts anyone’s ability to vote.  If we let the Feds take over elections, it will just be another huge bureaucracy that we cannot afford.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

44 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Narratives are just that.  The laws that Joe Biden is calling the worst threat to our country actually expand voting access to almost anyone.  These laws were needed in order to codify the best things that were done last year and eliminate the things that aren’t needed.  Do we really need 24hr polling places?  In all the stories I see about this issue, no one can seem to elaborate why increasing voting access restricts anyone’s ability to vote.  If we let the Feds take over elections, it will just be another huge bureaucracy that we cannot afford.

We have had this debate before to no avail, there is no need for polling places when your mail in voting system is mature.