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10 minutes ago, Thomas Reinhardt said:

What's the lie ???? I'm just answering the question they have asked for an answer from anyone who reads the post and I wasn't spreading fear just stating the facts your I-751 petition must be strong enough to convince the USCIS officer that you are tried and true it's all about proving your word anyone can get married for the wrong reasons on this form they give you another chance to prove you didn't marry to get a visa nor avoid immigration laws be serious this petition will require good evidence. 

The first lie is that the spouse will be deported for not sending compelling evidence. The second lie is that children are the strongest evidence. Plenty of couples have no children and are approved. The third lie is that you should not send evidence that you have already sent: even the instructions say that the evidence that you sent has to cover the entire marriage, so yes, you have to send things they already have.

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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Ok Immigration Attorney the only lies here are the ones that you're telling people that is what lawyers do right??? But remember they get paid to do that you don't! Nothing you've said is true do some more research before you give false information or information that's misleading. 

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33 minutes ago, Thomas Reinhardt said:

Ok Immigration Attorney the only lies here are the ones that you're telling people that is what lawyers do right??? But remember they get paid to do that you don't! Nothing you've said is true do some more research before you give false information or information that's misleading. 

Can you point out my lies, and back up what you claim?

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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41 minutes ago, Thomas Reinhardt said:

Ok Immigration Attorney the only lies here are the ones that you're telling people that is what lawyers do right??? But remember they get paid to do that you don't! Nothing you've said is true do some more research before you give false information or information that's misleading. 

@ra0010 wasn’t the only one to call you on your incorrect scaremongering.

(given my immigration experience with this journey I dare you to tell me to go do some research… 😂)

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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1 minute ago, ra0010 said:

Can you point out my lies, and back up what you claim?

First: The I-751 Petition is all about providing evidence that your Marriage is tried and true USCIS wants to see where you stand 2 years later show from point of entrance to 90 days before your card expires now some couples wouldn't have provided the quantity of evidence I did with the CR130  a lot of what I used then shouldn't have been used until now during filing I-751 this would be like Life insurance, Copies of bills with joint names , Bank Statements, these are things a normal couple would have after establishing a single residence together but I used them then this is one of the many examples I can use to show you.

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5 minutes ago, Thomas Reinhardt said:

First: The I-751 Petition is all about providing evidence that your Marriage is tried and true USCIS wants to see where you stand 2 years later show from point of entrance to 90 days before your card expires now some couples wouldn't have provided the quantity of evidence I did with the CR130  a lot of what I used then shouldn't have been used until now during filing I-751 this would be like Life insurance, Copies of bills with joint names , Bank Statements, these are things a normal couple would have after establishing a single residence together but I used them then this is one of the many examples I can use to show you.

Sorry, not being mean, but a paragraph full of run-on sentences is very hard to understand. So you’re saying that one of my lies is that I -somehow- implied that you don’t have to send life insurance, copies of bills, etc etc. If so, please tell me when and how I have ever implied that. I couldn’t have and never said so, because actually the ROC package that I’m planning on submitting does have that. 
Now, on to your non- sense:

1) while technically it is true that the petitioner can be deported for not submitting good quality evidence, it’s not a fast process. Petitioner gets a NOID, a court date and then a judge is the one to decide whether they’ll remove your PR status. From submitting your ROC, to USCIS saying you didn’t submit enough evidence, to sending a NOID, to getting a court date can be years. 
2) about children being strong evidence: yeah, no… by that token, coupled with no kids wouldn’t be approved, or people that divorced and didn’t have kids. Children are not a commodity that one should get for immigration purposes imho. I have been here long enough to tell you that I have read about a few couples that did send BCs of kids born to the marriage, and still got RFEd for more evidence.

3) the instructions if I-751 point out clearly that you have to make sure that the evidence you send has to cover your whole marriage. When we did my AOS, we submitted bank statements from our joint bank account; now that we are collecting evidence for ROC we are going to send those statements and add the ones we will have up to the point of filing. We will also send the leases we already sent, together with new leases. Same with ver bills. USCIS wants to see a continuation of joint financial responsibilities from the moment you got married to whenever you apply for ROC. And even after you send your package, you should continue to collect such evidence because ROC can take up to two years, and they want to see if the marriage is still going on. 
And @mindthegapplease stop wasting your time here and go back and retake USCIS 101 please! 🙃 

19 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

@ra0010 wasn’t the only one to call you on your incorrect scaremongering.

(given my immigration experience with this journey I dare you to tell me to go do some research… 😂)

 

Yeah go research AOS and ROC 101 please 😂😂😂

FROM F1 TO AOS

October 17, 2019 AOS receipt date 

December 09, 2019: Biometric appointment

January 15, 2020 RFE received

January 30, 2020  RFE response sent

Feb 7: EAD approved and interview scheduled

March 18, 2020 Interview cancelled

April 14th 2020: RFE received

April 29, 2020 Approved without interview

May 1, 2020 Card in hand

 

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

February 1, 2022 package sent

March 28, 2022 Fingerprints reused

July 18, 2023 approval

July 20, 2023 Card in hand

 

N400 

January 30,2023: Online filing

February 4th, 2023: Biometric appointment

June 15th, 2023: Case actively being reviewed

July 11th, 2023: Interview scheduled.

August 30th, 2023: Interview!

August 31st, 2023: Oath ceremony scheduled.

Sept 19th, 2023: Officially a US citizen!

 


 

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Here's something to ponder.  You need to supply evidence of a bonafide marriage from the date of the marriage to the time you submit the I-751.  However, the processing times are so delayed, for example 19-22 months for YSC, that much of what is submitted is outdated by the time the I-751 is processed. So what's the point? Over 95% are approved. I think the delays in processing are due in part because the USCIS does not see this as a priority.  You can continue to get extensions pending processing of ROC and can even apply for citizenship while waiting. In my opinion, the ROC has become a money grab.

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Folks, this legal-immigration process is dysfunctional at best and broken at worst.  The tension and frustration become unbearable, seemingly with no way to fight against it or relieve it.  Please remain unfailingly supportive of each other.  Remember that if you hold one pencil and snap it, it will break; conversely, if you hold a handful of pencils and try to snap them, they'll remain undamaged.

 

Not mentioned even once in this 7-page thread is to draft Wills, medical & statutory powers of attorney, HIPAA releases, and similar documents.  These make excellent evidence for ROC, and they're even more crucial to have in "life" -- even if you're young and don't own much.  Trust this.

 

[Moderator hat on]

Because enough good advice has been provided and bickering has begun to take over, this thread is now closed to further comment.  Do not transport the drama into other threads.

[Moderator hat  off]

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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