Is TONS of evidence really necessary for I-751?

[Scandi 4,166]

There's no specific requirement of what you have to send, or how much you have to send. You do you.

Personally I wasn't going to take any chances and sent a ~3 inch pile of documents, the majority was every single bank statement of our joint bank accounts from the time we got married until the ROC filing date. 

I chose to "be on the safe side" as with everything in my whole immigration journey to try my best to avoid any issues or delays, this still doesn't mean you're guaranteed to not receive an RFE. There were several in the April filers thread who received RFEs despite the fact that they sent in great evidence, and a lot of it.
Sometimes there has simply been so much time between the date of filing and the date they pick up your petition to go through it, that the person looking at your case wants to ensure that you're STILL in a bonafide marriage, living together etc. A lot can happen in 2 years, and even 1 year. 

It's up to you how you want to do it. You can't possibly know if your case will end up with someone picky who will ask for more evidence, or with someone who's fine with what you already sent. You can only try to avoid an RFE, but if you do get one it's not an issue bigger than a simple delay. An RFE and delay is not that big of a deal.

[mindthegap 2,590]

1 hour ago, Timona said:

Will not be surprised if someone hasn't sent a whole crate (attached). If the attached ever hits my desk and I am the IO, my supervisor must surely hate me. I will just submit resignation.

 

P.S I know you cannot submit the attached. What I am merely referring to is mountain of evidence the size of the attached.

 

 

 

I mean....it really wasn't too far off that to be honest 😑

 

 

in contrast, filing #1 fit comfortably into a fedex express box, and #2 in a Fedex express envelope.

 

 

1 hour ago, Timona said:

 

Someone here had sent like 1000 pages, and that was just chats. I even wonder how they knew it was 1000. Did they count it? If 1000 was just chats, I wonder what else they included in the package and what was the final package size. 

 

 

I know because I kept having to re-order printer paper (and ink).... in total I ordered 7 reams of 500 pages = 3500 sheets. Allowing for mis-prints/duplicates, and what was left over,  I used well over 2500 sheets....and then if you add on the load of stuff that was printed double sided (mainly credit card and bank statements), I printed well over 4000 sides of paper. 

I also wore out a brand new printer so had to buy another one.

 

1 hour ago, Timona said:

I have seen and also heard, of people who sent steamy bedroom pictures and texts. This one might get my attention and even if you send a crate, I will not resign. Just joking 😂 on this one. Please, keep bedroom stuff and sexy name calls to yourselves. They do not prove anything.

 

There was definitely stuff like that in mine, within the mountain of other correspondence, along with the not so nice messages to/about me, of which there were plenty. It's all truthful, so it all went in. 

 

 

[Reed1812 127]

Wow. That sounds like a full time job pulling all that information together!

 

I have just printed the two years tax returns and I am looking at 66 pages already. Man.

[USC4SPOUSE 506]

9 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

I mean....it really wasn't too far off that to be honest 😑

 

 

 

🤪 woooooooooooooooow wow

 

@mindthegap This is not to discredit your struggle. On the upside, though, I am glad that you have the evidence to back it all up. Often times, psycho spouse strikes and the immigrant is caught off guard and can't access evidence or moves out without it. So I am glad you were able to gather all that evidence of bona fide marriage. 

 

[mindthegap 2,590]

24 minutes ago, USC4SPOUSE said:

🤪 woooooooooooooooow wow

 

@mindthegap This is not to discredit your struggle. On the upside, though, I am glad that you have the evidence to back it all up. Often times, psycho spouse strikes and the immigrant is caught off guard and can't access evidence or moves out without it. So I am glad you were able to gather all that evidence of bona fide marriage. 

 

Honestly if it had been twice that it would have gone in. Sick to f***ing death of this whole thing at this point… I could have put more, but I had to draw a line and cap it for my own sanity.
Spending a solid full time three and a half months thinking about, re-living in detail and writing about a toxic & abusive marriage to a thoroughly nasty person that I haven’t seen or spoken to in over half a decade (and I assure you I never will again) was not how I wanted to spend my spring. It was basically a full time job. 
But, if it brings about an end to this seemingly never-ending nightmare it will be worth it.

[Timona 4,207]

50 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

I mean....it really wasn't too far off that to be honest 😑

 

 

in contrast, filing #1 fit comfortably into a fedex express box, and #2 in a Fedex express envelope.

 

 

 

 

I know because I kept having to re-order printer paper (and ink).... in total I ordered 7 reams of 500 pages = 3500 sheets. Allowing for mis-prints/duplicates, and what was left over,  I used well over 2500 sheets....and then if you add on the load of stuff that was printed double sided (mainly credit card and bank statements), I printed well over 4000 sides of paper. 

I also wore out a brand new printer so had to buy another one.

 

 

There was definitely stuff like that in mine, within the mountain of other correspondence, along with the not so nice messages to/about me, of which there were plenty. It's all truthful, so it all went in. 

 

 

Ayayeeee 🙆‍♂️. I knew it. I hope you paid USCIS 10x the usual fee to review this.

 

The person that I know who sent one form will be surprised. 

 

How much was the shipping?

Edited July 12, 2021 by Timona

[USC4SPOUSE 506]

4 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Honestly if it had been twice that it would have gone in. Sick to f***ing death of this whole thing at this point… I could have put more, but I had to draw a line and cap it for my own sanity.
Spending a solid full time three and a half months thinking about, re-living in detail and writing about a toxic & abusive marriage to a thoroughly nasty person that I haven’t seen or spoken to in over half a decade (and I assure you I never will again) was not how I wanted to spend my spring. It was basically a full time job. 
But, if it brings about an end to this seemingly never-ending nightmare it will be worth it.

Shake my head. I really cannot even imagine. I'm sorry. Hang in there...

[Wuozopo 4,293]

39 minutes ago, Reed1812 said:

Wow. That sounds like a full time job pulling all that information together!

 

I have just printed the two years tax returns and I am looking at 66 pages already. Man.

Check your returns to make sure you haven’t included extra pages and “worksheets”. I know my TurboTax creates a pile of pages that are not actually part of the return. Except for form 1040, all the other included forms or schedules will have the  Attachment Sequence number (examples below). Those are the ones that are actually part of the tax return. Anything else is extra for your records or the bin. 

[mindthegap 2,590]

8 minutes ago, Timona said:

How much was the shipping?

$370 fedex

[Timona 4,207]

3 hours ago, mindthegap said:

$370 fedex

Once all is done and dusted, we should throw you a relief party. I'm in already. 

[Xyra 13]

There's no one correct answer, but it's definitely quality over quantity.

 

 

My packet fit into one of the USPS priority express envelopes, and I was approved today without an interview or RFE.

 

 

I didn't send a lot in, because I waited until the last minute to haphazardly throw my packet together, and mail it out until two weeks before my packet expired. 

 

 

What I submitted was our health insurance information, joint tax returns, the car loan documents for my car, vehicle insurance, our internet bills, 4 pictures (two were old, and two were our cats, lol) a few paystubs to show we live at the same address, and that's about it. 

 

 

I'm not on the mortgage, or most of the bills, we didn't have any joint accounts, have almost no pictures together, and we were still fine. Don't overthink it too much! 😊

 

 

[USC4SPOUSE 506]

I think it comes down to what is going to help you sleep at night. I know that I would not be able to sleep if I'd sent 4 bank statements per year. I just wouldn't. So we sent everything but the kitchen sink. 

[SalishSea 17,818]

1 hour ago, Xyra said:

There's no one correct answer, but it's definitely quality over quantity.

 

 

My packet fit into one of the USPS priority express envelopes, and I was approved today without an interview or RFE.

 

 

I didn't send a lot in, because I waited until the last minute to haphazardly throw my packet together, and mail it out until two weeks before my packet expired. 

 

 

What I submitted was our health insurance information, joint tax returns, the car loan documents for my car, vehicle insurance, our internet bills, 4 pictures (two were old, and two were our cats, lol) a few paystubs to show we live at the same address, and that's about it. 

 

 

I'm not on the mortgage, or most of the bills, we didn't have any joint accounts, have almost no pictures together, and we were still fine. Don't overthink it too much! 😊

 

 

This is going to be our M.O.  My husband is from New Zealand, and if we were not together, there is no way he'd stay in the US 😂.   I was thinking I should probably do a quit claim gift for his part of the house, though.  

[Cathi 5,746]

Quality over quantity. My husband and I had several so called "red flags" and I never sent huge amounts of evidence at any stage of our journey and we never had a single RFE at any point-up to and including naturalization. There is no need to send every page of every statement from all of your joint accts, insurance, mortgages, ect..just send a sampling of them that span the entirety of the time that your spouse has been in the U.S. There is no need to send anything from before he/she arrived, you've already sent that all in at the petition, NVC and visa stages.

 

(Our "red flags:" I'm 21 years older, divorced with 2 children. We are different religions, we married on my first visit to meet him and I'm sure there were more but I just can't think of them at the moment)He's been a citizen for several years now and this year is our 10th wedding anniversary. And yes, we're very happy.

 

Good luck!!

[Dashinka 24,488]

12 hours ago, mindthegap said:

Honestly if it had been twice that it would have gone in. Sick to f***ing death of this whole thing at this point… I could have put more, but I had to draw a line and cap it for my own sanity.
Spending a solid full time three and a half months thinking about, re-living in detail and writing about a toxic & abusive marriage to a thoroughly nasty person that I haven’t seen or spoken to in over half a decade (and I assure you I never will again) was not how I wanted to spend my spring. It was basically a full time job. 
But, if it brings about an end to this seemingly never-ending nightmare it will be worth it.

Really makes one ponder about what a joke the I751 really is.