Disclose previous B2 denial? Should previous DS-160 app # be included on I-129F?

[SoDifficult 24]

We are nearly finished putting together our I-129F (K1) packet. While sitting i's and crossing t's, I came across an article mentioning disclosure of any previous USCIS applications/submissions.

 

As of right now, the beneficiary does not have an A-number that we are aware of. However, about 6 months ago they did submit and interview for a B-2 visitor visa which they were denied.

 

My questions are:

 

1) Is it necessary to disclose the previous B-2 denial?

 

2) If so, would the previous DS-160 application number be their (the beneficiary) "A-Number"? (The DS-160 application number does begin with an A, followed by 9 numbers/letters).

 

3) If this IS considered their A-Number, would we put this on the I-129F application in section 2 under beneficiary info?

 

4) if this is not their A-Number, should we still disclose the previous B-2 application and denial?

 

The previous denial was for 214(b):  Did not establish eligibility for the visa category being applied for or overcome the presumption of being an intending immigrant.

 

Our preference is to be as upfront and honest as necessary. I'm just not sure if I'm overthinking it or just getting confused due to the A-Number.

 

Thanks in advance for any info/suggestions you have.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

23 minutes ago, SoDifficult said:

We are nearly finished putting together our I-129F (K1) packet. While sitting i's and crossing t's, I came across an article mentioning disclosure of any previous USCIS applications/submissions.

 

As of right now, the beneficiary does not have an A-number that we are aware of. However, about 6 months ago they did submit and interview for a B-2 visitor visa which they were denied.

 

My questions are:

 

1) Is it necessary to disclose the previous B-2 denial?

 

2) If so, would the previous DS-160 application number be their (the beneficiary) "A-Number"? (The DS-160 application number does begin with an A, followed by 9 numbers/letters).

 

3) If this IS considered their A-Number, would we put this on the I-129F application in section 2 under beneficiary info?

 

4) if this is not their A-Number, should we still disclose the previous B-2 application and denial?

 

The previous denial was for 214(b):  Did not establish eligibility for the visa category being applied for or overcome the presumption of being an intending immigrant.

 

Our preference is to be as upfront and honest as necessary. I'm just not sure if I'm overthinking it or just getting confused due to the A-Number.

 

Thanks in advance for any info/suggestions you have.

Answer:  We had two B visa denials back in ‘07, always declare them, and it’s never been an issue.  We just state “applied for visit visa 2007”
Your beneficiary  has no A-number, that is assigned to immigrants not visit applicants.  If they want records of that previous application my position is you’re the government it’s your job to keep those records.

Edited July 9, 2021 by Nitas_man

[KayDeeCee 4,895]

A numbers not assigned for tourist visas. 

 

They will disclose the previous B-2 denial on the DS-160 when applying for the visa. 

[SoDifficult 24]

10 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

Answer:  We had two B visa denials back in ‘07, always declare them, and it’s never been an issue.  We just state “applied for visit visa 2007”
Your beneficiary  has no A-number, that is assigned to immigrants not visit applicants.  If they want records of that previous application my position is you’re the government it’s your job to keep those records.

Awesome, thanks for the info. I was thinking the same, but didn't want to chance missing something and get a denial for some kind of withholding of info.

[SoDifficult 24]

10 hours ago, KayDeeCee said:

A numbers not assigned for tourist visas. 

 

They will disclose the previous B-2 denial on the DS-160 when applying for the visa. 

Okay, that makes much more sense that it would be disclosed on the new DS-160 as there is nothing on the I-129F that asks about previous visas or interviews. Thanks for the help.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

Just now, SoDifficult said:

Awesome, thanks for the info. I was thinking the same, but didn't want to chance missing something and get a denial for some kind of withholding of info.

Nah, I just put that note and leave it at that.  She’s never been asked about it.

[KayDeeCee 4,895]

4 hours ago, SoDifficult said:

Okay, that makes much more sense that it would be disclosed on the new DS-160 as there is nothing on the I-129F that asks about previous visas or interviews. Thanks for the help.

You're welcome. Yes, they will be asked about previous visas/denials on the DS-160 when applying for the K-1. Not asked for on the I-129F petition. No need to mention it there.

[Ryan H 3,821]

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[SoDifficult 24]

On 7/9/2021 at 8:38 PM, KayDeeCee said:

You're welcome. Yes, they will be asked about previous visas/denials on the DS-160 when applying for the K-1. Not asked for on the I-129F petition. No need to mention it there.

I finally pulled the trigger and got the packet in the mail this morning. Fingers crossed! Thanks again.

[KayDeeCee 4,895]

18 hours ago, SoDifficult said:

I finally pulled the trigger and got the packet in the mail this morning. Fingers crossed! Thanks again.

You're welcome. Hope things go smoothly for you.