U.S. Supreme Court invalidates California charity donor disclosure

[Dashinka 24,438]

Considering the support from groups of all sides of the political spectrum for invalidating the CA law, I am really surprised the 3 Leftist justices dissented.  This was a bad law plain and simple, and thought it was really meant to hit conservative groups, the unintended consequences were far reaching.  Also considering the fact that the CA AGs office cannot guarantee the security of the information they require only adds to the overall ruling.  I guess it is time to pack the court.

 

U.S. Supreme Court invalidates California charity donor disclosure

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-backs-conservatives-against-california-donor-disclosure-2021-07-01/

[TBoneTX 45,089]

It was a horrible law.  Good thing that the double standard implied by it was kiboshed.

[Dashinka 24,438]

But apparently it has renewed calls from the Dems to pack the court.  For some reason they miss this was the most “bipartisan” open minded court in recent history.  

Edited July 5, 2021 by Dashinka

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The restriction of rules surrounding donor transparency, particularly when lobbying is involved, is going to increase corruption and continue the shift

 

When I donate 100 dollars to a candidate, party or election effort my name, address and employer is published for the world to see. When a billionaire or special interest wants a dark money fund to influence legislation or elections he doesn't have to disclose anything.

 

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

16 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

The restriction of rules surrounding donor transparency, particularly when lobbying is involved, is going to increase corruption and continue the shift

 

When I donate 100 dollars to a candidate, party or election effort my name, address and employer is published for the world to see. When a billionaire or special interest wants a dark money fund to influence legislation or elections he doesn't have to disclose anything.

 

uh huh.  until your contribution goes against the grain...........see Sgt. William K. Kelly III
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/norfolk-officer-doxxed-and-fired-after-donating-anonymously-kyle-rittenhouse-defense-fund/

 

or maybe this is what you have in mind?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/doxxing-trump-donors-is-just-the-beginning/

 

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1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

uh huh.  until your contribution goes against the grain...........see Sgt. William K. Kelly III
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/norfolk-officer-doxxed-and-fired-after-donating-anonymously-kyle-rittenhouse-defense-fund/

 

or maybe this is what you have in mind?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/doxxing-trump-donors-is-just-the-beginning/

 

If the officer violated the policies of his agency, and he had due process along with union represenation, what is the issue?  Voters can influence the policies of their city, the officer is subject to them. 

 

The National Review article makes my case, the Uber wealthy and powerful escape scrutiny, my name and affiliation are on the internet for all to see for a modest donation. The 100 limit needs to be indexed up to 1000.

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

14 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

If the officer violated the policies of his agency, and he had due process along with union represenation, what is the issue?  Voters can influence the policies of their city, the officer is subject to them. 

 

The National Review article makes my case, the Uber wealthy and powerful escape scrutiny, my name and affiliation are on the internet for all to see for a modest donation. The 100 limit needs to be indexed up to 1000.

did you even read the first article?
 

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The Norfolk, VA, Police Department fired Sgt. William K. Kelly III after a hacker group revealed his anonymously donated money to Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense fund.

additionally, Norfolk VA is quite a bit from Wisconsin, where the bit with kyle took place. 
furthermore:
 

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Norfolk Mayor Kenny Alexander said Kelly’s donation is “not consistent with the values of our city or the standards set for our employees.” Stacey noted that Alexander never elaborated on which “values and standards” Kelly allegedly violated.

sounds quite vague and nebulous.........

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33 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

did you even read the first article?

 

Absolutely...you could address my points, but hey you do you.

 

Would you feel the same about the story if he donated to someone accused of violence who was protesting on behalf of BLM or is your outrage colored by the fact that your (alleged)  violent  offender is sympathetic to your views.

 

33 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

 

additionally, Norfolk VA is quite a bit from Wisconsin, where the bit with kyle took place. 
furthermore:
 

sounds quite vague and nebulous.........

 

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

30 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Absolutely...you could address my points, but hey you do you.

 

Would you feel the same about the story if he donated to someone accused of violence who was protesting on behalf of BLM or is your outrage colored by the fact that your (alleged)  violent  offender is sympathetic to your views.

 

 

lol a minor defending himself against a convicted child molester, a convicted wife beater, and a convicted felon with a firearm - and the kid is the violent offender.  🤣

Edited July 5, 2021 by Ban Hammer

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2 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

lol a minor defending himself against a convicted child molester, a convicted wife beater, and a convicted felon with a firearm - and the kid is the violent offender.  🤣

I don't make the laws in Wisconsin, the young man will have his day in court, but back to the question: would you apply the same standards to a police officer who sent money and comments to someone with an apparent BLM affiliation?

Edited July 5, 2021 by CanAm1980

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

13 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

I don't make the laws in Wisconsin, the young man will have his day in court, but back to the question: would you apply the same standards to a police officer who sent money and comments to someone with an apparent BLM affiliation?

yes.  freedom and the right to privacy does not know politics.

[Dashinka 24,438]

21 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

Absolutely...you could address my points, but hey you do you.

 

Would you feel the same about the story if he donated to someone accused of violence who was protesting on behalf of BLM or is your outrage colored by the fact that your (alleged)  violent  offender is sympathetic to your views.

 

 

The dreaded “whataboutism”.  Who has been fired or canceled for donating to BLM?  

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

The dreaded “whataboutism”.  Who has been fired or canceled for donating to BLM?  

I think he was fired over social media comments

 

https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-vermont-media-social-media-school-boards-ddb8251472b5a7bf0817faaa32010614

• White principal fired for post about ‘Black Lives Matter’

https://www.thewrap.com/black-lives-matter-comments-11-people-fired-suspended/

9 People Fired or Suspended for Black Lives Matter Comments (Photos)

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/24/whataburger-black-lives-matter-masks/

She wore a BLM mask to work at Whataburger. After a customer complained, she lost her job.

 

 

[Dashinka 24,438]

9 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

I think he was fired over social media comments

 

https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-vermont-media-social-media-school-boards-ddb8251472b5a7bf0817faaa32010614

• White principal fired for post about ‘Black Lives Matter’

https://www.thewrap.com/black-lives-matter-comments-11-people-fired-suspended/

9 People Fired or Suspended for Black Lives Matter Comments (Photos)

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/24/whataburger-black-lives-matter-masks/

She wore a BLM mask to work at Whataburger. After a customer complained, she lost her job.

 

 

The first two don’t really support your cause as they were fired for criticizing not supporting BLM.  Can’t read the last one from WaPo, but I assume this employee broke the terms of their employment for displaying a political message while at work.  No freedom of speech in the workplace or on social media.

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6 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

The first two don’t really support your cause as they were fired for criticizing not supporting BLM.  Can’t read the last one from WaPo, but I assume this employee broke the terms of their employment for displaying a political message while at work.  No freedom of speech in the workplace or on social media.

You cannot read the Washington Post? have you tried Duck Duck go as a browser?

 

Some Black Lives Matter Supporters Say Their Stance Got Them Fired
https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5p4qj/some-black-lives-matter-supporters-say-their-stance-got-them-fired

 

Florida teacher on leave for BLM flag learns she was fired in YouTube video

Contrary to the education commissioner's claims, school officials told the local press Amy Donofrio is still an active employee.

https://thegrio.com/2021/05/18/florida-teacher-donofrio-on-leave-for-blm-flag/

 

Woman says she was fired from Hobart YMCA for Black Lives Matter messages on personal car

Wilkinson worked for an after school program at the Hobart YMCA. She said she added the Black Lives Matter messages to her car after recent events that she said really opened her eyes to racial injustice in America.

The messages included "Black Lives Matter," "I Can't Breathe" and "White Silence Is Compliance." She said she never thought they would end up costing her job.
"It's important to me to fight against the injustices and to fight for equity and equality for all people, and that includes Black people," she said. "As a white person, that is my responsibility."

Wilkinson said she was terminated from the after school program last week, and didn't see it coming.

"The CEO, Andrew, spoke to me and asked me to remove the messages from my personal vehicle. I was in shock," she said.

https://abc7chicago.com/hobart-ymca-after-school-program-black-lives-matter-blm/6824500/