Travel document

[Timona 4,208]

1 minute ago, Jill Mackie said:

Thank you so much , I appreciate it.

 

To add, I even went to Mexico. The Mexico trip was 2018, around May. I had just done my AOS interview in September of 2017 and had got a stamp on my PP. The stamp serves as GC and is valid for 1 year.

 

Anyway, we had gone down to South Padre, a town a few minutes/ 1 hour or so from the border. Spontaneously, we decided to go across the border. Before the trip, I had known that the stamp is valid for 1 year and it was still unexpired. Additionally, I had my 2 year GC which I got 3 days after the interview. However, I did not carry the GC on this trip as my foreign PP still had that stamp and the stamp was still unexpired. 

 

So across the border we went. When we came back, I just showed my PP, the CBP saw the stamp and was like "Aaaaaa so you're CR-1?" all while swipping PP. Took him like 5 mins to get me through because his system was misbehaving. All this while, we we just chatting about Kenya and safaris. I was cool as I knew the stamp was still valid and no need for me to carry GC. However, I would later hear from my wife that my parents in law thought I was being detained and were arguing that I should have carried my GC (they were on a different lane which happened not to have system problems. So they moved faster than me). Anyway, I just laughed when I heard that (they don't know anything about immigration).

 

Morel of the story here is: don't fret. You will come back just fine.

[Timona 4,208]

2 minutes ago, Jill Mackie said:

Perfect 💟💟💟💟 thank you!! When my green card is approved I'm sending you chocolates and flowers 

 

What about us🤷🏽‍♂️🤔?? We also contributed 

 

@USC4SPOUSE bro code. Get may, share with brothers😉. No need for me to explain further. 

[Jill Mackie 76]

5 minutes ago, Timona said:

 

To add, I even went to Mexico. The Mexico trip was 2018, around May. I had just done my AOS interview in September of 2017 and had got a stamp on my PP. The stamp serves as GC and is valid for 1 year.

 

Anyway, we had gone down to South Padre, a town a few minutes/ 1 hour or so from the border. Spontaneously, we decided to go across the border. Before the trip, I had known that the stamp is valid for 1 year and it was still unexpired. Additionally, I had my 2 year GC which I got 3 days after the interview. However, I did not carry the GC on this trip as my foreign PP still had that stamp and the stamp was still unexpired. 

 

So across the border we went. When we came back, I just showed my PP, the CBP saw the stamp and was like "Aaaaaa so you're CR-1?" all while swipping PP. Took him like 5 mins to get me through because his system was misbehaving. All this while, we we just chatting about Kenya and safaris. I was cool as I knew the stamp was still valid and no need for me to carry GC. However, I would later hear from my wife that my parents in law thought I was being detained and were arguing that I should have carried my GC (they were on a different lane which happened not to have system problems. So they moved faster than me). Anyway, I just laughed when I heard that (they don't know anything about immigration).

 

Morel of the story here is: don't fret. You will come back just fine.

Thank you so much , that helps me calm down a little . Chocolates and flowers for you too . Thank you for your help ❤️

[USC4SPOUSE 506]

14 minutes ago, Timona said:

 

What about us🤷🏽‍♂️🤔?? We also contributed 

 

@USC4SPOUSE bro code. Get may, share with brothers😉. No need for me to explain further. 

@Jill Mackie you heard @Timona!! Ha-ha of course, I am sharing! Bro code all the way! 🤠

Edited July 3, 2021 by USC4SPOUSE

[USC4SPOUSE 506]

2 minutes ago, Jill Mackie said:

Thank you so much , that helps me calm down a little . Chocolates and flowers for you too . Thank you for your help ❤️

And  To be clear, Everyone entering on AP goes to secondary inspection. It’s not detention. 
My husband was nervous, ofcourse. They asked why I didnt travel with him. Umm Im not made of money! Its not cheap to fly to Malaysia. 
and that was it.

 

once you do your biometrics, you can expedite your combo card if you get a job offer or if you need to travel for an emergency. 
 

 Please use either fedex or UPS. Too many random mishaps with USPS. Triple check your forms! Signagures, etc.

 

enjoy your weekend!

 

 

[Jill Mackie 76]

4 minutes ago, USC4SPOUSE said:

And  To be clear, Everyone entering on AP goes to secondary inspection. It’s not detention. 
My husband was nervous, ofcourse. They asked why I didnt travel with him. Umm Im not made of money! Its not cheap to fly to Malaysia. 
and that was it.

 

once you do your biometrics, you can expedite your combo card if you get a job offer or if you need to travel for an emergency. 
 

 Please use either fedex or UPS. Too many random mishaps with USPS. Triple check your forms! Signagures, etc.

 

enjoy your weekend!

 

 

Thank you , I'm going through everything again , so I'm probably going to be here asking more questions until I'm 100% sure it's all correct. I will be using UPS for sure .

 

Thank you again and have a great weekend.

[SalishSea 18,142]

4 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

It's states she had been living in Utah and working legally . You seem to be looking just to argue . It's a legitimate concern to me which is Why I asked in the first place. 

Exactly my point !!!! 

So when you're a green card holder, you will never leave the US?  That means staying put for years.  The AP is no different in practice than a GC.  And like Lucky Cat said, only US citizens are guaranteed admission.

[Loren Y 2,756]

My wife used her AP/EAD combo card 3 times within 4 months after she received it. We traveled internationally VIA  Air exit and return, Land exit and return, and even a cruise so Sea port exit and return, every single time no secondary, no questions, just a have a nice day. This helped out in a MAJOR way when we went for our AOS interview, The interviewing officer saw we had taken 3 trips together outside the country, and even commented on the Cruise we took out of Long Beach,CA saying "if you two survived a week on a cruise ship and didn't kill each other you really are in Love", LOL. so get the AP and use it. I know we made sure we did!!!

[Jill Mackie 76]

31 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

My wife used her AP/EAD combo card 3 times within 4 months after she received it. We traveled internationally VIA  Air exit and return, Land exit and return, and even a cruise so Sea port exit and return, every single time no secondary, no questions, just a have a nice day. This helped out in a MAJOR way when we went for our AOS interview, The interviewing officer saw we had taken 3 trips together outside the country, and even commented on the Cruise we took out of Long Beach,CA saying "if you two survived a week on a cruise ship and didn't kill each other you really are in Love", LOL. so get the AP and use it. I know we made sure we did!!!

Thank you , I will be applying for it .

[Jill Mackie 76]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

So when you're a green card holder, you will never leave the US?  That means staying put for years.  The AP is no different in practice than a GC.  And like Lucky Cat said, only US citizens are guaranteed admission.

Well that's not what I said. As I've mentioned I'm not an expert like the rest of you , I am new to this journey and just trying to find my way through this. 

[Mike E 11,742]

17 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

I'm not saying there's a case on VJ , I'm saying as I overstayed my visa there maybe a chance they won't let me back in

 

I’ve been scouring the web for years and have yet to find a case where CBP denied the entry of a AP document holder.  There are definitely cases where CBP made it scary.  CBP is scary.  CBP are police officers.  Police can be scary.  
 

17 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

Also there was a case in Utah recently where a woman with a valid green card was denied entry because the officer thought she was lying . Not saying it will happen but there is a chance.

 

17 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

Well here it is 

https://www.ksl.com/article/50192821/woman-living-legally-in-utah-on-work-visa-denied-reentry-to-us

Not s green card.  In this case a TN work visa.  CBP officers have deep training on this type of visa as compared to other visas like H1-B because Canadians are exempt from needing a TN-1 visa and instead CBP adjudicates a Canadian’s entry on the basis of a TN-1 status  at the port of entry.  
 

So because they have this training, a Mexican with a TN-1 visa gets closer attention than a Mexican on an H1-B

 

16 hours ago, Lucky Cat said:

No one except US citizens are guaranteed entry.

LPRs are guaranteed physical admittance  by CBP.  That doesn’t mean CBP cannot start removal proceedings or even hold the LPR for ICE.  But the LPR who arrives at a physical port of entry will be allowed to enter of the LPR insists.  
 

See https://www.aila.org/File/Related/18110604b.pdf

 

Just as I haven’t found a case of an AP holder being denied physical admittance  I haven’t found a case of an LPR status holder being denied physical admittance (except for the ones who signed I-407, which is voluntary).  

 

16 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

It's states she had been living in Utah and working legally . You seem to be looking just to argue . It's a legitimate concern to me which is Why I asked in the first place. 

Exactly my point !!!! 

CBP determined she had not been working legally. 
 

An AP document is a safer way to travel to the USA than a visa.  Even an immigration visa. In terms of safe to travel, an AP is second only to a green card or evidence of being an LPR, though some airline checkin clerks are under trained on AP.  
 

People with visas to enter the USA often don’t think twice about leaving and coming back.  Some  are in for a rude awakening when they attempt to return on the visa.  

Anyway, you might feel today you won’t use AP, but it doesn’t hurt to apply for it. It gives you options, especially if there is a family emergency in another country.  This way you can make the decision and consider the trade offs then.  
 

17 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

do I need to complete Part 7 ? Where it says : 

 

On a separate sheet of paper, explain how you qualify for an Advance Parole Document, and what circumstances warrant issuance of advance parole. Include copies of any documents you wish considered. (See instructions.) 

Form I-131 handles several different situations and thus is poorly written. 
 

For my wife’s successful I-131 application, we wrote:

 

* TBD for intended date of departure

 

* TBD for intended length of stay. 
 

* selected “more than one trip”

 

* wrote in part 7: “I am concurrently applying for adjustment of status on Form I-485”

 

We did not include a separate piece of paper. 

[Crazy Cat 42,298]

14 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Just as I haven’t found a case of an AP holder being denied physical admittance  I haven’t found a case of an LPR status holder being denied physical admittance (except for the ones who signed I-407, which is voluntary).  

It seems, it is rare, but possible in some circumstances.

 

https://www.stilt.com/blog/2020/06/can-a-permanent-resident-be-denied-entry/

 

[ineedadisplayname 503]

18 hours ago, Jill Mackie said:

Well here it is 

https://www.ksl.com/article/50192821/woman-living-legally-in-utah-on-work-visa-denied-reentry-to-us

Work visa is not a green card.

Also nobody is guaranteed entry, only US citizens. So you are planning to wait until you become a US citizen to leave the country? Did anybody mention it to you that since u r a naturalized citizen it can be taken away too?

 

Seems like you are living in fear, but yeah since u overstayed maybe wait until your GC is approved since the overstay will be forgiven at some point because you are married to a US citizen. BUT as others stated it is free and in a case of emergency it is good to have.

[Mike E 11,742]

17 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

It seems, it is rare, but possible in some circumstances.

 

https://www.stilt.com/blog/2020/06/can-a-permanent-resident-be-denied-entry/

 

Stilt?

 

C’mon.  
 

Stilt is wrong.  The document I linked to is correct.  
 

I coached a kid in the Middle East who was out of USA for over ten years.    
 

The kid read all sorts of nonsense on Stilt and other places.  But he decided to listen to me as he was desperate and I was the only one telling him he could come home.  

 

His expired green card plus the NOA1 from his I-90 was enough to get him home.  CBP didn’t even say a thing, despite the kid having a mountain of evidence ready to explain how his narcissist for a father forced him to leave and stay out of the USA.

 

That  same blog post says 

 

Granted, you will still have to present your passport at the entrance, along with your identifying paperwork that proves your citizenship. However, as a citizen, your entry in the U.S. is pretty much guaranteed.

Garbage.  No you don’t have to present a passport if you don’t have and your entry is 100 percent guaranteed  provided you’ve never misrepresented yourself as anything but a US citizen to a CBP officer.  

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Mike E

[Crazy Cat 42,298]

1 minute ago, Mike E said:

Stilt?

 

C’mon.  
 

Stilt is wrong.  The document I linked to is correct.  
 

I coached a kid in the Middle East who was out of USA for over ten years.    
 

The kid read all sorts of nonsense on Stilt and other places.  But he decided to listen to me as he was desperate and I was the only one telling him he could come home.  

 

His expired green card plus the NOA1 from his I-90 was enough to get him home.  CBP didn’t even say a thing, despite the kid having a mountain of evidence ready to explain how his narcissist for a father forced him to leave and stay out of the USA.

 

 

I don't know.  But the point is (and we both agree), the OP should not fear being denied entry if she has a valid advance parole document.  Like you, I have never seen a case of entry denial for valid AP holders.