Guidance and advice needed please

[mushroomspore 3,044]

2 hours ago, Timona said:

Your sister passed 3 days ago and adoption has already been brought up between you and your USC husband and you already want immigration for your nieces/ nephews? That was quick. Honestly, look at it from an outsider's perspective. This is sure as fishy as it comes. 

 

Unfortunately, the dad has to now put on the pants. He helped create these kids. History only know of one person who was born of a virgin (not trying to be sexist here. I'm just bringing history into this).

 

It'll be even difficult to convince IO that the dad doesn't want anything to do with your sister's kids and then they come to find out he has another family, with kids, and taking care of them. So why shun one side? That would be the nail on your coffin by IO with your adoption process. 

OP doesn't have to explain their family dynamics and they did specify that the father is "incapable" of taking care of the children. That could mean a whole variety of things and could involve many personal nuances. Just because the parent is alive does not mean that they can and are able to take care of the kids. There's a lot we don't know about OP's family (and we don't need to know because that's not our business). So let's leave the judgmental comments out. In terms of immigration, it is completely normal for OP to want to at least ask if this is an option and what is involved.

[Timona 4,208]

1 hour ago, Billie said:

It might look fishy to you but it’s definitely not fishy. I am just asking for guidance and advice, we are not planning to immigrate them today. And obviously I am still in my country because our petition has not been approved 

 

I never said the father has another family somewhere with kids, I don’t know where you read that. This is why I never want to bring this here in the first place but my husband said we need to know what our option is and I was just concerned for the little ones care

 

 

My statement was an if. I did not for certainly state that the dad has another family. I was just giving you something to think about. 

 

1 hour ago, mushroomspore said:

OP doesn't have to explain their family dynamics and they did specify that the father is "incapable" of taking care of the children. That could mean a whole variety of things and could involve many personal nuances. Just because the parent is alive does not mean that they can and are able to take care of the kids. There's a lot we don't know about OP's family (and we don't need to know because that's not our business). So let's leave the judgmental comments out. In terms of immigration, it is completely normal for OP to want to at least ask if this is an option and what is involved.

 

And I agree with you. However,  I wasn't being judgemental. I was stating it as is. Additionally, I answered her questions within my response.

 

We need to be able to freely debate and not hide from the obvious. The IO will ask these questions. They won't shy away from them because "it's not their business." As an individual, you may have the best at heart. However, you may need to have a second set of eyes/ ears to ascertain so. 

Edited June 17, 2021 by Timona

[Boiler 46,202]

First the OP needs to adopt the children legally, I assume that is possible but do not know. Sounds like this is the urgent issue bearing in mind the Father's absence.

 

 

[Brown B 4]

Your husband as a US citizen can adopt those child in Nigeria and then go back to US with the adoption degree to a local US supreme Court do what is called pre adoption a judge will sign the pre adoption papers, once he get all the paper sign, he can now file a visa petition for them... if he needs help i can direct him to a law office in New York that are very good on that

[Billie 2]

3 hours ago, Brown B said:

Your husband as a US citizen can adopt those child in Nigeria and then go back to US with the adoption degree to a local US supreme Court do what is called pre adoption a judge will sign the pre adoption papers, once he get all the paper sign, he can now file a visa petition for them... if he needs help i can direct him to a law office in New York that are very good on that

Thank you so much, I will show this to him. This is very helpful, though we just want to know the needful for now. 

[Chancy 6,243]

6 hours ago, Billie said:

Thank you so much, I will show this to him. This is very helpful, though we just want to know the needful for now. 

 

Please don't listen to that advice.  The US Supreme Court doesn't sign adoption papers for kids in Nigeria.  The official US government guidance for an adoption to be valid for US immigration is here --

 

U.S. Immigration Requirements / How to Adopt in Nigeria

https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/adoption/adoption-in-nigeria/

 

Nigeria Intercountry Adoption Information

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/Intercountry-Adoption/Intercountry-Adoption-Country-Information/Nigeria.html

 

Also the DOS FAM and USCIS links previously posted by @HRQX

 

Edited June 20, 2021 by Chancy
added reference to previous post

[Billie 2]

15 hours ago, Chancy said:

 

Please don't listen to that advice.  The US Supreme Court doesn't sign adoption papers for kids in Nigeria.  The official US government guidance for an adoption to be valid for US immigration is here --

 

U.S. Immigration Requirements / How to Adopt in Nigeria

https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/adoption/adoption-in-nigeria/

 

Nigeria Intercountry Adoption Information

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/Intercountry-Adoption/Intercountry-Adoption-Country-Information/Nigeria.html

 

Also the DOS FAM and USCIS links previously posted by @HRQX

 

Thanks a lot, this is very informative 

[SalishSea 18,170]

On 6/20/2021 at 1:11 AM, Brown B said:

Your husband as a US citizen can adopt those child in Nigeria and then go back to US with the adoption degree to a local US supreme Court do what is called pre adoption a judge will sign the pre adoption papers, once he get all the paper sign, he can now file a visa petition for them... if he needs help i can direct him to a law office in New York that are very good on that

None of this is correct.  You have NO idea what you are talking about.  Please do not irresponsibly dispense bogus advice.

[SalishSea 18,170]

On 6/20/2021 at 4:24 AM, Billie said:

Thank you so much, I will show this to him. This is very helpful, though we just want to know the needful for now. 

Except that it is 100% incorrect, and fails to mention the treaties that cover international adoptions and how they pertain to US immigration.  Please, please do not listen to it.

[Billie 2]

34 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Except that it is 100% incorrect, and fails to mention the treaties that cover international adoptions and how they pertain to US immigration.  Please, please do not listen to it.

Okay...Thanks