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We uploaded my wifes (The US citizen) 2019 tax return and 2020 extension to the NVC website in application for my CR1 visa

I have learned through this forum that when my embassy interview comes around that they will not issues a visa unless we have completed a 2020 tax return. 

 

My question is. How does my wife, who is married to a non-resident alien, complete her tax return for 2020. Do I need to get a TIN number? Or is there any other options available. 

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Nepal
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Your wife can file as Married Filing Separately, no ITIN is required. Only if she wants to file Married Filing Jointly, yours ITIN will be required. The first approach is hasslefree.

Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

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Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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****Moved to Tax and Finances During US Immigration******

 

Option 1- She can file as "Married-Filing Separately".  She enters "NRA" in the box for spouse SSN, then she mails the return to the IRS.

Option- 2  She can a joint return, but she must include the documents for your ITIN along with her tax return.  This is a little more complicated.

 

If you and she file a joint return (Option 2), then world-wide income from both spouses must be reported.

 

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 hour ago, Lucky Cat said:

****Moved to Tax and Finances During US Immigration******

 

Option 1- She can file as "Married-Filing Separately".  She enters "NRA" in the box for spouse SSN, then she mails the return to the IRS.

Option- 2  She can a joint return, but she must include the documents for your ITIN along with her tax return.  This is a little more complicated.

 

If you and she file a joint return (Option 2), then world-wide income from both spouses must be reported.

 

Thank you for moving this to the correct forum.

and also thanks for the response.

 

My next question would be why wouldn’t we go with option 1 it seems the most straightforward. 

Is there any other considerations we should consider when picking either option

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13 minutes ago, JimWahers1993 said:

Thank you for moving this to the correct forum.

and also thanks for the response.

 

My next question would be why wouldn’t we go with option 1 it seems the most straightforward. 

Is there any other considerations we should consider when picking either option

If the foreign spouse has significant income, option #2 could create a larger tax liability since world-wide income must be reported for both spouses.  However, option #2 could be advantageous if the foreign spouse had little or no foreign income since the spouse deduction would apply.  Option #1 requires only the income from the US citizen to be reported.

In my personal case, I chose Option #1 for tax years 2015 and 2016 since my wife has significant foreign income and there is no tax treaty between the US and Taiwan.  I simply hand-wrote "NRA" in box for spouse SSN, then I mailed the return to the IRS......reporting ONLY my personal income (filing separately).   

 

Yeah, it can get complicated.

Edited by Lucky Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 hours ago, Lucky Cat said:

If the foreign spouse has significant income, option #2 could create a larger tax liability since world-wide income must be reported for both spouses.  However, option #2 could be advantageous if the foreign spouse had little or no foreign income since the spouse deduction would apply.  Option #1 requires only the income from the US citizen to be reported.

 

We went with option #2 and in our particular circumstances married filing jointly quite literally makes our tax return $10,100 greater than if I filed married filing separately.  like if I go in TurboTax and check off the MFJ check box, the refund score ticker goes up $10,100 but if I check off the MFS check box the refund score ticker goes down $10,100.  I think realistically my wife and stepdaughter will not be able to immigrate until at least some time in 2022😔 so it is quite probable this same scenario will play out again for the 2021 tax year.  Meaning by the time they ever get a visa it would make over $20,000 difference in our returns whether I file jointly or separately.     As noted, other couple's situations may not have nearly the same impact or even have a a very adverse impact depending on their specific circumstances.  But when the differences can potentially be that substantial, it seems very prudent to actually sit down and take the extra time to run the numbers both ways and find out what works best and how much difference it actually makes.  

 

In our case, filing for the ITIN to get the $10,100 larger return required about 10 minutes extra paperwork and my wife had to stop by the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs office in her neighborhood and obtain a certified passport copy at the cost of about $3 so that we did not have to send in her actual passport. 

 

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Wife and Stepdaughter                                                                            

  • December 17, 2020:  Married in Costa Rica
  • March 08, 2021: Filed l-130s Online
  • March 09, 2021: NOA1
  • April 26, 2021: NOA2, I-130s Approved
  • April 30, 2021: NVC Received
  • May 01, 2021: Pay AOS and IV Bills
  • May 06, 2021: Submit AOS, Financial Docs and DS-260s
  • May 14, 2021: Submit Civil Docs for Stepdaughter
  • May 21, 2021: Submit Civil Docs for Wife
  • June 25, 2021: NVC review for Stepdaughter, RFE submit additional Doc
  • July 08, 2021: Wife Documentarily Qualified by NVC
  • August 31, 2021: Stepdaughter Documentarily Qualified by NVC
  • September 15, 2021: Received Interview Date from NVC, October 05, 2021
  • September 22, 2021: Passed physicals at Saint Luke's Extension Clinic
  • October 05, 2021: Interview at US Embassy Manila. Verbally approved by US Consul. Positive interview experience.
  • October 05, 2021: CEAC status changed to "Issued"
  • October 07, 2021: Passports tracking for delivery on 2GO Courier website
  • October 08, 2021: Passports with visas delivered.  "Visas on hand"
  • October 08, 2021: Paid Immigrant Fee
  • October 12, 2021: Temporary CFO Certificates Received
  • October 26, 2021 POE arrival at LAX
  • November 02, 2021 Social Security Cards arrive in mail
  • January 31, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Is Being Produced"
  • February 04, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Was Mailed To Me"
  • February 07, 2022: Green cards received. 

 

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3 hours ago, top_secret said:

 

In our case, filing for the ITIN to get the $10,100 larger return required about 10 minutes extra paperwork and my wife had to stop by the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs office in her neighborhood and obtain a certified passport copy at the cost of about $3 so that we did not have to send in her actual passport. 

 

Just so OP know about options, if you feel it is a hassle to go through ITIN process, you can go with MFS for now. Once your spouse immigrates you can amend your prior year (up to 3 years) tax returns from MFS to MFJ and get all owed returns back. So you won't be losing your potential returns, just will be getting back a bit late. Did I mention IRS pays the interest as well on those returns. I did that for 2 prior years when my wife immigrated.

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Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

.

.

.

.

Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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