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10 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

Of course.   Like the bank who loaned you the money for your jalopy should be responsible for the damage you do while you are using it.
 

A lot of people were researching coronaviruses after SARS.  Including Bayler over here in Houston.  Because two (SARS and MERS) broke out.  Research doesnt mean anyone “made” this one.  If you think you can “make” a virus for a half mil go ahead.  There has been a lot of COVID research going on.  Why do you think the vaccines were ready so quickly?  They were well into a SARS vaccine but since it died out they stopped working on it.
 

What in the world are people who care less about spreading a virus (spreading it really does kill people) doing talking about “personal responsibility” anyway.  That’s funny.

That is a completely absurd comparison.  Having a scientific government organization provide grants for research is in no way the same as a person applying for a bank loan.  The fact that you equate a person questioning this as a Covid denier simply proves you have no clue.  It is not as black and white as you think, but of course hatred is an irrational emotion.  Go read the Nicholas Wade article if you have time.  It is not conclusive, but it certainly opens up some questions.  Regardless, believe what you want.

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7 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

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No.

Wouldn't an investigation mean more money for a bunch of lawyers?

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On 6/7/2021 at 8:15 AM, Nitas_man said:

A lot of people were researching coronaviruses after SARS.  Including Bayler over here in Houston.  Because two (SARS and MERS) broke out.  Research doesnt mean anyone “made” this one.  If you think you can “make” a virus for a half mil go ahead.  There has been a lot of COVID research going on.  Why do you think the vaccines were ready so quickly?  They were well into a SARS vaccine but since it died out they stopped working on it.

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Of the 36 possible genome pairings that can produce two arginine amino acids in a row — which results in boosting a virus’ lethality — the one most commonly used in gain-of-function research is CGG-CGG, or double CGG, wrote Quay and Muller.

 

"The insertion sequence of choice is the double CGG," wrote Quay, the founder of Atossa Therapeutics, and Muller, a former top scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who now teaches physics at the University of California’s Berkeley campus.

 

"That’s because it is readily available and convenient, and scientists have a great deal of experience inserting it," they wrote. "An additional advantage of the double CGG sequence compared with the other 35 possible choices: It creates a useful beacon that permits the scientists to track the insertion in the laboratory."

 

The pair noted that the double CGG sequence has never been found naturally among the entire group of coronaviruses that includes CoV-2, which causes COVID-19.

 

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Rand Paul says he will ask DOJ for 'criminal referral' over Fauci testimony

 

"I will be sending a letter to Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress. We have scientists that were lined up by the dozens to say that the research he was funding was gain-of-function," the Kentucky Republican told Sean Hannity of Fauci on Tuesday evening’s "Hannity" program.  

 

"He's doing this because he has a self interest to cover his tracks and to cover his connection to Wuhan lab," Paul continued. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rand-paul-says-he-will-ask-doj-for-criminal-referral-over-fauci-testimony/ar-AAMoZqN

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13 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Rand Paul says he will ask DOJ for 'criminal referral' over Fauci testimony

 

"I will be sending a letter to Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress. We have scientists that were lined up by the dozens to say that the research he was funding was gain-of-function," the Kentucky Republican told Sean Hannity of Fauci on Tuesday evening’s "Hannity" program.  

 

"He's doing this because he has a self interest to cover his tracks and to cover his connection to Wuhan lab," Paul continued. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rand-paul-says-he-will-ask-doj-for-criminal-referral-over-fauci-testimony/ar-AAMoZqN

Senator Paul was humiliated when his BS was called out, his response by trying to throw shade on the doctor with a juvenile prank of criminal referral doesn't surprise me. The man has nothing.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Senator Paul was humiliated when his BS was called out, his response by trying to throw shade on the doctor with a juvenile prank of criminal referral doesn't surprise me. The man has nothing.

 

 

 

Apparently you and I saw something different or you are relying on the Leftist MSM for the analysis.  Dr. Fauci could not explain why what was happening in Wuhan did not fit the NIH definition of GoF research, and was scrambling to cover his posterior.  Dr. Fauci is a strong proponent of GoF and I believe he even argued GoF was worth the risk of a pandemic.  Senator Paul could have pressed Fauci more on what his new definition of GoF research is, but I supposed it would have been just a lot more obfuscation from Dr. Fauci.  Lastly, the fact that Dr. Fauci gets so defensive makes one wonder what he might be hiding, I certainly hope that old man does not sleep very well.

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16 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Apparently you and I saw something different or you are relying on the Leftist MSM for the analysis.  Dr. Fauci could not explain why what was happening in Wuhan did not fit the NIH definition of GoF research, and was scrambling to cover his posterior.  Dr. Fauci is a strong proponent of GoF and I believe he even argued GoF was worth the risk of a pandemic.  Senator Paul could have pressed Fauci more on what his new definition of GoF research is, but I supposed it would have been just a lot more obfuscation from Dr. Fauci.  Lastly, the fact that Dr. Fauci gets so defensive makes one wonder what he might be hiding, I certainly hope that old man does not sleep very well.

 What is your definition of Gain of Function research, and why in the context of Covid-19 do we care?

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36 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

 What is your definition of Gain of Function research, and why in the context of Covid-19 do we care?

It is not my definition, but rather the NIH definition.  The reason we care about this is at the time, the NIH had suspended offering grants for GoF research, and there is a reason to dig deeper into the role Dr. Fauci and Francis Collins had in subverting those rules by routing grants to a 3rd party to keep from needing to scrutinize the research that was happening.  This is why Dr. Fauci is being so defensive in my opinion.  Btw, the last 6 SARs outbreaks were lab leaks.

 

Gain-of-function (GOF) research involves experimentation that aims or is expected to (and/or, perhaps, actually does) increase the transmissibility and/or virulence of pathogens.  

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27502512/

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-05-27/covid-19-and-lab-leak-history-smallpox-h1n1-sars

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8 hours ago, Dashinka said:

It is not my definition, but rather the NIH definition.  The reason we care about this is at the time, the NIH had suspended offering grants for GoF research, and there is a reason to dig deeper into the role Dr. Fauci and Francis Collins had in subverting those rules by routing grants to a 3rd party to keep from needing to scrutinize the research that was happening.  This is why Dr. Fauci is being so defensive in my opinion.  Btw, the last 6 SARs outbreaks were lab leaks.

 

Gain-of-function (GOF) research involves experimentation that aims or is expected to (and/or, perhaps, actually does) increase the transmissibility and/or virulence of pathogens.  

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27502512/

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-05-27/covid-19-and-lab-leak-history-smallpox-h1n1-sars

So what proof do you have the NIH funded research that could increase virus transmissibility? What proof do you have that Covid-19 was not from another species?  And after all that how do you know that Fauci is lying? 

You dont.

 

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Fox News Can’t Get Its Story Straight on COVID Vaccines

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/07/fox-news-story-covid-vaccines

 

 

For months now, Fox News has struggled to get its story straight on the COVID-19 vaccine. Tucker Carlson has likened the shot to an authoritarian “social control” project, and Alex Berenson—Fox’s go-to skeptic for all things COVID related—falsely claimed that vaccinated people are getting “sick or dying, as has happened in Israel.” Earlier this month, Charlie Kirk, who founded pro-Trump youth group Turning Point USA, suggested on Carlson’s show that vaccine mandates are an “apartheid” policy designed to discriminate against unvaccinated Americans.

At the same time, a number of other Fox News personalities—primarily its daytime news anchors and morning hosts—have vouched for the vaccine on air; the hosts of Fox & Friends even acknowledged they were vaccinated during their first day back in the studio together. Behind the scenes too, the network has taken the virus seriously, vacating its corporate offices during the height of the pandemic and asking employees to take precautions. Most recently, according to CNN, Fox News has quietly begun mandating an in-office vaccine passport of sorts by developing “a secure, voluntary way for employees to self-attest their vaccination status.” (Fox did not respond to CNN’s request for comment.)

It’s possible that Fox’s mixed messaging, and in particular its role in fomenting vaccine hesitancy, has been prevalent enough for Joe Biden’s administration to take notice. Although it didn’t get into specifics, a separate CNN report on Tuesday noted that the White House and Fox News have held “regular, high-level conversations” about the network’s pandemic coverage. A source familiar with the talks told the outlet that “there has been no singular conversation that has played a role in Fox’s coverage of COVID-19,” but said the two entities are frequently in touch—a claim seemingly confirmed by White House press secretary Jen Psaki. “We understand…the importance of reaching Fox’s audience about the COVID-19 vaccines and their benefits, and like we are with all of you here today we, of course, are in regular contact,” she said during a press briefing. (In its own statement, Fox seemed to echo Psaki’s account, saying that while “there have been no high-level conversations between Fox News Media & the White House regarding our coverage,” their D.C. bureau personnel “are regularly in touch…on a variety of issues.”)

 

The question of Fox’s culpability in the pandemic has been raised early and often; the network was sued by a watchdog group for telling viewers, in essence, that COVID was nothing to worry about. The suit was ultimately thrown out, but as the delta variant causes a spike in infections, at least one of the network’s heavy hitters may be reevaluating. On Monday night, Sean Hannity told his audience to “Please take COVID seriously, I can’t say it enough. Enough people have died. We don’t need any more deaths…. Research like crazy, talk to your doctor, your doctors, medical professionals...it absolutely makes sense for many Americans to get vaccinated. I believe in science. I believe in the science of vaccination.” His speech is a marked departure from March 2020, when Hannity claimed that the left was using COVID-19 to scare “the living hell out of people.”

 

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