'I love those barrettes in your hair.. she looks like she's 19 years old.. with her legs crossed.'

[Dashinka 24,731]

31 minutes ago, moxy said:

This is a bit hyperbolic and undermines your argument. As I've said before, I don't agree with a lot of Biden's policies, but while he's capable of a flub or two (and I really question why the right would EVER want to go there), he's a fine speaker.

 

I needed a good laugh today.

 

[moxy 1,051]

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

 

I needed a good laugh today.

 

Glad we're focused on what's important.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

41 minutes ago, moxy said:

It's interesting that Dems never get a pass when they say something before they held office. And once he became President, do you believe he stopped believing what he said about John McCain?

 

It's also interesting that Dems never get a pass for what their staffers do in their stead. Trump never walked back the USS John McCain debacle, never apologized, never fired a staffer over it.

I got to dems never get a pass, and spit tea across he room and almost chocked. You can't be serious 

8 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

 

I needed a good laugh today.

 

He is on a roll today. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

On 6/3/2021 at 3:18 PM, moxy said:

Here's a good litmus test to see how far each party has swung:

 

Last four Democratic Presidents: Obama, Clinton, Carter, Johnson. Of these, which of them would still win a Democratic Party nomination today? I would argue all of them.

 

Last four Republican Presidents: Trump, Bush Jr, Bush, Reagan. Of these, which of them would still win a Republican Party nomination today? I would argue only Trump.

 

Yes, both parties change. Over time they move a little further one way or the other. But they never abandon their core values. Those values may become a little more or less nuanced, but they don't change in huge, tectonic ways. As one example, historically if a Republican were to ever mock anyone's military service, their career is over. That is a standing-next-to-your-crying-wife-and-kids-in-front-of-the-press moment. But that very core value is out the window now. Trump did it. Cruz did it. And not only did the GOP and their base not care, but they actively defended them. And now a retired Army General and ex-Trump staffer has even given vocal support to dragging our military into a Myanmar-style coup.

 

Both parties suck, and I agree with you that we should all be ashamed that we are complicit in how bad these parties are. But at the moment, only one of them is an existential threat to the future of this democracy. (and as much as I disliked Bush Jr, I would have never said that about even him)

Reagan would not win a primary and Carter would. By god man you are on a roll

[moxy 1,051]

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I got to dems never get a pass, and spit tea across he room and almost chocked. You can't be serious

So you're telling me the conservatives on this forum give Dems a pass on things they've said before they entered public service?

[moxy 1,051]

6 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Reagan would not win a primary and Carter would. By god man you are on a roll

A Democratic primary? Absolutely. It's hypothetical of course, but absolutely.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

50 minutes ago, moxy said:

So you're telling me the conservatives on this forum give Dems a pass on things they've said before they entered public service?

The 5 or  6 people on this forum that are Repubs do not shape public opinion. Come on man

[moxy 1,051]

15 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

The 5 or  6 people on this forum that are Repubs do not shape public opinion. Come on man

I'm not speaking to the public. I'm speaking to the people who are in this conversation.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

14 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

The 5 or  6 people on this forum that are Repubs do not shape public opinion. Come on man

You know full well how many of us are Republican.  

 

Trumpublicans disgust us.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

16 hours ago, moxy said:

I'm not speaking to the public. I'm speaking to the people who are in this conversation.

I will say it's nice to have some dissenting opinions in here again 

[moxy 1,051]

On 6/5/2021 at 7:31 AM, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I will say it's nice to have some dissenting opinions in here again 

Yeah, I saw the post where someone was complaining that it was just an echo-chamber. You can blame some of it on how this group is curated, but also the quality of conversation. This discussion for the most part has been courteous, and I'll be happy to participate in such an environment. (I can't do anything about curation, unfortunately)

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

On 6/4/2021 at 3:20 PM, moxy said:

It's interesting that Dems never get a pass when they say something before they held office. And once he became President, do you believe he stopped believing what he said about John McCain?

 

It's also interesting that Dems never get a pass for what their staffers do in their stead. Trump never walked back the USS John McCain debacle, never apologized, never fired a staffer over it.

It's interesting that above you claim dems never get a pass, and yet...

 

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/764488-google-diversity-head-removed-over-anti-semitic-blog-post/?do=findComment&comment=10470750

On 6/4/2021 at 4:02 PM, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I got to dems never get a pass, and spit tea across he room and almost chocked. You can't be serious 

He is on a roll today. 

IKR???

[moxy 1,051]

6 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

It's interesting that above you claim dems never get a pass, and yet...

 

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/764488-google-diversity-head-removed-over-anti-semitic-blog-post/?do=findComment&comment=10470750

IKR???

So basically anything except completely slagging the Dems off is giving them a pass?

[Dashinka 24,731]

10 hours ago, moxy said:

So basically anything except completely slagging the Dems off is giving them a pass?

Considering no one is calling out the venerable Adam Schiff for his constant conspiracy theories, and the last four years of utter lies from the Dems/MSM, yes, the Dems get a pass on almost anything.  Even the Google employee was not fired, just hidden away in another spot.

[moxy 1,051]

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Considering no one is calling out the venerable Adam Schiff for his constant conspiracy theories, and the last four years of utter lies from the Dems/MSM, yes, the Dems get a pass on almost anything.  Even the Google employee was not fired, just hidden away in another spot.

That I don't align with you politically or see the world through your particular filter doesn't equate to giving the Dems a pass.