1 in 5 EV Buyers Switch Back to Gas-Powered Cars: Study

[LIBrty4all 3,754]

Also, 80% of 2% (approximate number of EV purchasers) is only about 1.6% of all car buyers in the world.  Not really a significant group of buyers.

[Dashinka 24,731]

1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

won't require a different class of license.  Most states don't require a CDL for a large motorhome, and those can get up to 40k lbs.  But a heavier vehicle will both require a larger battery and more charging.  And while more charging stations are becoming available, as you mentioned above - it increases trip time due to the slower charging vs refilling at the gas pump.

 

And as I point out to my "woke" EV friends, that electricity they are using doesn't come from the sun.

In Michigan, if one is driving a vehicle over 10k lbs in a commercial setting, they need to have a chauffer's license, and since DLs are state issues, there will be a variety of differences.  My main point though is these EV trucks are way heavier than their ICE counterparts, and there are other factors that will impact their adoption other than for the completely 'woke' class.  I agree, when I talk to the EV fanatics, they seem to gloss over all the other factors that impact EV ownership, many of them also maintain an ICE as a second vehicle, and they always seem to assume everyone lives in single family homes with nice heated garages.  One of the factors of the 20% going back to ICE vehicles were those that had only a single car.  I think those owners were sold a bill of goods, and found out the utility of an EV is questionable in many situations. 

[Dashinka 24,731]

3 hours ago, laylalex said:

Alternate headline:

 

80% of EV Purchasers Stay With Technology 

Yes, this is an alternative, however as already mentioned, it is 20% of a very small population, and with the political winds blowing toward 100% EVs in the very near future, this is quite telling.

[Neonred 3,632]

4 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Some years ago, I came home, and this dialogue ensued:

Mrs. T-B.:  I bought you cheap.
T-B.:  What did you say?
Mrs. T-B.:  I bought you cheap.
T-B.:  You bought me cheap?  What the dickens does THAT mean?  I'm not that cheap.  And don't let Immigration hear you say that.
Mrs. T-B. [frustrated]:  Cheap, CHEAP!  I bought you CHEAP!

Further investigation revealed that she had gone to the store and bought me a bag of potato cheaps, si man.
 

I understand completely.  Last year the son in law (wife's daughter's husband), who is a Brit, asked me in his perfect English to pick him up some crisps at the store.  I got to the store and then wondered, "what the heck are crisps"?

[Boiler 45,941]

1 hour ago, Neonred said:

I understand completely.  Last year the son in law (wife's daughter's husband), who is a Brit, asked me in his perfect English to pick him up some crisps at the store.  I got to the store and then wondered, "what the heck are crisps"?

[Boiler 45,941]

I have a friend on the waiting list for a Rivian, I can see a Rav4 Prime makes sense.

 

With the move to zero emissions the issue I see is that a pure EV is still 50% of a IC vehicle so where does the rest come from?

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

17 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Depends.  Most of the EV trucks I am aware of weigh more than 10,000 lbs without any loads (most 1/2 ton trucks fall in the range of 6,000 to 8,500 lbs).  This may require the need for a different classification of license, and it may fall into a different vehicle classification.  Regardless, more road damage with a much heavier truck.

"Batteries are heavy, and the truck weighs about 6,500 pounds, roughly 1,000 more than the same truck with the 3.5-liter engine."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-electric-first-look-review/

 

 

So about 20% more. I assume that is for the standard 230 mile range. 44k entry price.

 

The truck is good looking, but I hate the stuck on tablet look console like the Tesls.

 

[Boiler 45,941]

A Tesla S weighs about 5,000lbs.

 

I like the combo as the battery is smaller and allows many to do their regular stuff EV and have the IC for longer trips and not have to carry all that extra weight around.

 

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

38 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I have a friend on the waiting list for a Rivian, I can see a Rav4 Prime makes sense.

 

With the move to zero emissions the issue I see is that a pure EV is still 50% of a IC vehicle so where does the rest come from?

RAV$ primes are next to impossible. We will not even know if we are getting them in the south until July

 

EV are 100% electric 

Edited May 20, 2021 by Nature Boy 2.0

[Boiler 45,941]

Total life emissions of EV are about half of IC.

 

Not sure if I like the frontal look of the Rav4, and as with a lot of this stuff wonder how they will hold up with so much to go wrong, what will the cost of repairs be in 10 years?

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

32 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Total life emissions of EV are about half of IC.

 

Not sure if I like the frontal look of the Rav4, and as with a lot of this stuff wonder how they will hold up with so much to go wrong, what will the cost of repairs be in 10 years?

Hybrids have a higher predicted reliability generally  than normal IC vehicles 

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

37 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

RAV$ primes are next to impossible. We will not even know if we are getting them in the south until July

 

EV are 100% electric 

I assume the $ is not a typo?

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

10 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

I assume the $ is not a typo?

hmmm lol statstercis would say

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8 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Hybrids have a higher predicted reliability generally  than normal IC vehicles 

There was someone with a BMW, not high end, electric window motor went could only be replaced by a Dealer as it had to be programmed, over a $1,000 to do and not worth it.

 

I can see that many will end up being scrapped well before what might be there expected lifetime because of this sort of thing, only time will tell.

[laylalex 7,300]

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

This is a very good flavo(u)r!