Another I-864 Question (I know eye roll)

[Meli022 39]

Hey everyone I'm slightly confused on the I-184 process. I am a USC primary sponsor for my husband. I am living abroad with him and currently do not have an income. My mother will be the joint sponsor and we have the same address. We are NOT combining incomes since I do not have one. From responses to another question I asked I should NOT be considered a house hold member. So if I am researching correctly...we would both fill out the I-864, correct? As the I-864A is for those combining income? As for my second question....when filling out the household member number would be both just put two? For mine myself and husband...for hers herself and my husband? She has a live in boyfriend but they obviously file taxes separate as they are not married. She has no other dependents, and he will not be contributing any income. I hope i'm making sense haha not sure why this part of the process is overwhelming as it seems like the most straightforward part LOL Anyways thanks for reading and any responses or advice!!!

[Timona 4,208]

You cannot count your husband twice i.e on your end and your mom's

Your I-864 - Household of 1 i.e just you. Put zero for your income. On page 1 of this document, you should check box 1.a

Mom's I-864 - Household of 2, your mom and your husband. Her boyfriend does not count, as you already figured out. On page 1 of this document, she should check box 1.d

 

[Meli022 39]

Ahhh thank you so much for responding!!

[Chancy 6,243]

25 minutes ago, Meli022 said:

I am a USC primary sponsor for my husband. I am living abroad with him and currently do not have an income. My mother will be the joint sponsor and we have the same address.

 

Wait, do you mean that your mother also lives abroad?

 

[Crazy Cat 42,436]

17 minutes ago, Timona said:

You cannot count your husband twice i.e on your end and your mom's

This is not accurate.  These are 2 separate I-864s.  Each I-864 must show the new immigrant.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Lucky Cat

[Meli022 39]

Just now, Chancy said:

 

Wait, do you mean that your mother also lives abroad?

 

No sorry!! She lives in America. I am only abroad while we wait out this process. I originally lived alone but a few months before I moved abroad I left my apartment and moved into my mothers house. So all my bills, bank accounts, primary address etc is the same as her address in America. Hopefully that clears things up. I need to get it together lol I feel like since im ALMOSTTTTTTT done at least submitting documents its making my mind race. I just want us to go back to America so bad. I miss my dog so much LOL!

[Chancy 6,243]

7 minutes ago, Timona said:

You cannot count your husband twice i.e on your end and your mom's

 

That is not accurate.  You should not count a person twice on the SAME I-864 form.  But the beneficiary should definitely be included in BOTH the primary sponsor's and the joint sponsor's I-864 household counts.

 

11 minutes ago, Timona said:

Your I-864 - Household of 1 i.e just you.

 

There is no point to an I-864 where a beneficiary is not counted.  The minimum household count for I-864 is 2.

 

[Crazy Cat 42,436]

Just now, Chancy said:

 

That is not accurate.  You should not count a person twice on the SAME I-864 form.  But the beneficiary should definitely be included in BOTH the primary sponsor's and the joint sponsor's I-864 household counts.

 

 

There is no point to an I-864 where a beneficiary is not counted.  The minimum household count for I-864 is 2.

 

Agree.....

[Meli022 39]

Just now, Chancy said:

 

That is not accurate.  You should not count a person twice on the SAME I-864 form.  But the beneficiary should definitely be included in BOTH the primary sponsor's and the joint sponsor's I-864 household counts.

 

 

There is no point to an I-864 where a beneficiary is not counted.  The minimum household count for I-864 is 2.

 

Okay thank you so much for responding. That is initially what I thought I was more so confused about if I needed my mother to fill out the I-864A. So I should move forward with TWO I-864's both showing the household count of two. Yes? Thank you again for responding I really appreciate it!!!

[Chancy 6,243]

8 minutes ago, Meli022 said:

She lives in America. I am only abroad while we wait out this process.

 

In that case, yes, you file an I-864 and your mom files another I-864.  Your household count should be 2 (you and your husband).  Your mom's household count should also be 2 (your mom and your husband).

 

[Crazy Cat 42,436]

Just now, Meli022 said:

Okay thank you so much for responding. That is initially what I thought I was more so confused about if I needed my mother to fill out the I-864A. So I should move forward with TWO I-864's both showing the household count of two. Yes? Thank you again for responding I really appreciate it!!!

Correct.

[Timona 4,208]

20 minutes ago, Chancy said:

 

That is not accurate.  You should not count a person twice on the SAME I-864 form.  But the beneficiary should definitely be included in BOTH the primary sponsor's and the joint sponsor's I-864 household counts.

 

 

There is no point to an I-864 where a beneficiary is not counted.  The minimum household count for I-864 is 2.

 

 

28 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

What do you mean?  These are 2 separate I-864s.  Each I-864 must show the new immigrant, correct?

 

Yes. Both of you are right. I was wrong on this one.

Thanks for keeping me in check.

I went through the same process (my sister was the only joint sponsor as wife was zero income) 5 years ago. I already forgot how I self- filled those papers (I self prepared my AOS as I was a broke student). 

 

Sincere apologies to OP

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by Timona