Need help for newborn DS11

[Acslate 4]

My baby was born in Italy, and trying to figure out how to do the DS11. How can I apply for the DS11 when my newborn has no social security number? I saw on another embassy they said put all 0s in the DS11 but that wasn't Italy. I don't know if that is treated the same. My wife is Italian and I'm an American. Thank you for any help.

[milimelo 4,475]

You need to do CRBA and passport application. You can sign a statement saying the baby doesn’t have SSN. I put all 0s and updated them when we were at the post office doing the application. Check if you can get SSN through one of consulates in Italy — some do have social security administration representatives. 

[Mike E 11,739]

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/apply-in-person.html
 

says 

 

• If you do not have a Social Security number, you must submit a statement, signed and dated, that includes the phrase, “I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the following is true and correct:  I have never been issued a Social Security Number by the Social Security Administration.”

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So leave the field blank and include the statement.  

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

4 hours ago, Acslate said:

My baby was born in Italy, and trying to figure out how to do the DS11. How can I apply for the DS11 when my newborn has no social security number? I saw on another embassy they said put all 0s in the DS11 but that wasn't Italy. I don't know if that is treated the same. My wife is Italian and I'm an American. Thank you for any help.

You have no proof your baby is a U.S. citizen without a CRBA.  The DS 11 can be done concurrently with the CRBA.

[Hilde 381]

I filed for the CRBA and then got the SS.

[Acslate 4]

This is all it says for checklist. When I fill out DS11, it's required to enter a social security number. That's what is confusing, so I fill it out with 0s in SSN then fill out a statement that she hasn't got a SSN being just born. 

1. Completed form DS-2029 – Please do not sign
2. Completed form DS-11 – Please do not sign 
3. Completed form SS-5 (for applicants in Rome and Naples only) – Please sign at box 17
4. Original birth certificate issued by the Comune or Anagrafe listing the parents' names. 
Birth certificates listing just the child and hospital birth registrations are not acceptable. If 
available, please request Modello Plurilingue (certificate in multiple languages). Please bring the 
original and 2 photocopies;
5. If married, marriage certificate (original or certified true copy). Please bring the original and 1 
photocopy;
6. If previously married, the original or certified copy of divorce decree, or death certificate for all 
previous marriages. Please bring the original and 1 photocopy;
7. Valid passport/identification document for the parent(s). Please bring the original and 2 
photocopies of the bio page of the document;
8. Proof of U.S. citizenship (passport, birth certificate, or Certificate of Naturalization) for the 
American parent(s). Please bring the original plus 3 copies of the bio page of the passport, or 1 
photocopy of birth certificate, or Certificate of Naturalization; 
9. Proof of physical presence in the United States of the U.S. citizen parent(s). Good examples of 
proof of physical presence include school records, university transcripts and employment 
records. 
Please refer to our website to review the physical presence requirements for transmission of 
citizenship and ensure you are bringing sufficient evidence to demonstrate the length of 
presence in the U.S. required for your circumstances;

[aaron2020 11,651]

Have you filed a CRBA with the US Embassy/Consulate for your child?

[Acslate 4]

12 hours ago, seekingthetruth said:

You have no proof your baby is a U.S. citizen without a CRBA.  The DS 11 can be done concurrently with the CRBA.

Do I have to pay for the $150 file search fee? How can it be done concurrently when I have to pay fees? Do I just pay for the passport book fee? 

7 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Have you filed a CRBA with the US Embassy/Consulate for your child?

Not yet because we're still waiting on the birth certificate. We just have the report. 

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

25 minutes ago, Acslate said:

Do I have to pay for the $150 file search fee? How can it be done concurrently when I have to pay fees? Do I just pay for the passport book fee? 

Not yet because we're still waiting on the birth certificate. We just have the report. 

Just follow the instructions you posted above.  You have to wait for the birth certificate before you can proceed.  Especially during Covid times, each Embassy does things a bit differently.  You should be reaching out to them for any clarifications.

 

You have to visit the Embassy with the baby to get a CRBA.  In the Philippines, I was able to accomplish all the requirements for CRBA, passport and SSN at the same time, and paid all the fees there too.  However, the CRBA is the first step and that must be approved before moving forward with the other two.

 

Sorry, I don't know what a "$150 file search fee" is.  CRBA application fee is $100.  Child passport fee is $105.  I don't think there is a SSN application fee.

[aaron2020 11,651]

1 hour ago, Acslate said:

Do I have to pay for the $150 file search fee? How can it be done concurrently when I have to pay fees? Do I just pay for the passport book fee? 

Not yet because we're still waiting on the birth certificate. We just have the report. 

Once you have the birth certificate, you can go to the US Embassy/Consulate to get the CRBA, US passport, and SSN.

[Acslate 4]

1 minute ago, aaron2020 said:

Once you have the birth certificate, you can go to the US Embassy/Consulate to get the CRBA, US passport, and SSN.

So, don't pay for the passport book and card until I get her birth certificate? Can I pay for it now, then just put it with CRBA package and wait until I get the birth certificate? It's on the to do the list for CRBA. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, seekingthetruth said:

Just follow the instructions you posted above.  You have to wait for the birth certificate before you can proceed.  Especially during Covid times, each Embassy does things a bit differently.  You should be reaching out to them for any clarifications.

 

You have to visit the Embassy with the baby to get a CRBA.  In the Philippines, I was able to accomplish all the requirements for CRBA, passport and SSN at the same time, and paid all the fees there too.  However, the CRBA is the first step and that must be approved before moving forward with the other two.

 

Sorry, I don't know what a "$150 file search fee" is.  CRBA application fee is $100.  Child passport fee is $105.  I don't think there is a SSN application fee.

I'm not sending off the CRBA until I get her birth certificate. It's just I want to get all the documents together ahead of time and ready to go. Then once I get her birth certificate, then mail it off to the embassy. Just want to complete the DS11 which is part of the check list. The Italian US embassy is very vague on newborns. 

 

The fees are for the DS11 process. It gives me passport and card fees. Then on the very bottom it has file search fee of $150 which is optional.

[milimelo 4,475]

6 hours ago, Acslate said:

So, don't pay for the passport book and card until I get her birth certificate? Can I pay for it now, then just put it with CRBA package and wait until I get the birth certificate? It's on the to do the list for CRBA. 

 

 

I'm not sending off the CRBA until I get her birth certificate. It's just I want to get all the documents together ahead of time and ready to go. Then once I get her birth certificate, then mail it off to the embassy. Just want to complete the DS11 which is part of the check list. The Italian US embassy is very vague on newborns. 

 

The fees are for the DS11 process. It gives me passport and card fees. Then on the very bottom it has file search fee of $150 which is optional.

No, you can't pay any fees ahead of time - what's the rush?

 

Wait for the birth certificate from local authorities, gather/complete the necessary forms (you obviously have the checklist) and schedule the appointment. Your child doesn't have an existing file so the file search fee would not even apply.