Daily update on Biden tanking america

[moxy 1,051]

Just now, Dashinka said:

I know, these things are only relevant at certain times, of course Biden often confuses D-Day with December 7th.  He has a lot on his mind trying to decide if he should get a cat.

Again, you're confusing me with somebody who cares to defend Biden's senior moments. But also again, I don't understand why you, as a Trump supporter, would want to go there.

[Dashinka 24,448]

20 minutes ago, moxy said:

Again, you're confusing me with somebody who cares to defend Biden's senior moments. But also again, I don't understand why you, as a Trump supporter, would want to go there.

Is that like you confusing me as a Trump supporter?

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

I recall that at the time of the incident of November 10th 2018, the pilots of Marine One received a weather briefing that rendered it illegal for them to fly.  Yet somehow, it's all Trump's fault.  I mean, he caused the overcast skies and rain, right?  Oh, and covid.  Let's not forget that one.

[moxy 1,051]

1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

I recall that at the time of the incident of November 10th 2018, the pilots of Marine One received a weather briefing that rendered it illegal for them to fly.  Yet somehow, it's all Trump's fault.  I mean, he caused the overcast skies and rain, right?  Oh, and covid.  Let's not forget that one.

I mean, the man can't make money from a casino, let alone control the weather. The easier explanation is, as someone else here mentioned, he likely didn't want his makeup to run just to go see the suckers and losers.

[Dashinka 24,448]

7 hours ago, moxy said:

I mean, the man can't make money from a casino, let alone control the weather. The easier explanation is, as someone else here mentioned, he likely didn't want his makeup to run just to go see the suckers and losers.

Yep, I am sure it was that.  Regardless, there is the old adage "Two wrongs...".  Even if Trump did in fact scratch the trip to keep his hair dry, does not make it right for Old Senile Joe to miss out on noting the hero's that gave their lives on D-Day.  No one has any moral high ground.

[moxy 1,051]

41 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yep, I am sure it was that.  Regardless, there is the old adage "Two wrongs...".  Even if Trump did in fact scratch the trip to keep his hair dry, does not make it right for Old Senile Joe to miss out on noting the hero's that gave their lives on D-Day.  No one has any moral high ground.

I think you put way too much gravitas onto Twitter. Have you checked Joe's 'grams? Maybe it's there.

[Dashinka 24,448]

1 minute ago, moxy said:

I think you put way too much gravitas onto Twitter. Have you checked Joe's 'grams? Maybe it's there.

So Joe and his handlers couldn't have put out a statement on the official WH website (there is a statement regarding the 40th anniversary of the HIV/AIDS epidemic there)?  It is interesting, a Joe statement on June 5th, and another on June 7th, I guess he ordered a lid on June 6th so he could go to church.  I could not care less about Twitter.

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

So Joe and his handlers couldn't have put out a statement on the official WH website (there is a statement regarding the 40th anniversary of the HIV/AIDS epidemic there)?  It is interesting, a Joe statement on June 5th, and another on June 7th, I guess he ordered a lid on June 6th so he could go to church.  I could not care less about Twitter.

I agree, the date should have been more formally recognized, although Biden did meet with warfighters at Langly, which to me is worth more than a hundred thousand tweets. But wrt messaging, yes, the WH staff should have been on top of that, especially for a president that puts a lot of emphasis tradition. I also know, with regards to honoring our military and those who paid the ultimate sacrifice, that you guys are a lot more concerned about what Biden didn't tweet than when the former president called the war dead "suckers and losers." So your concern about the one thing, but not the other, strikes me as purely partisan.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

52 minutes ago, moxy said:

I agree, the date should have been more formally recognized, although Biden did meet with warfighters at Langly, which to me is worth more than a hundred thousand tweets. But wrt messaging, yes, the WH staff should have been on top of that, especially for a president that puts a lot of emphasis tradition. I also know, with regards to honoring our military and those who paid the ultimate sacrifice, that you guys are a lot more concerned about what Biden didn't tweet than when the former president called the war dead "suckers and losers." So your concern about the one thing, but not the other, strikes me as purely partisan.

Let me help you out with that a bit.  You say you are a veteran, so one would think you could see how well Trump respected our military in his time as CinC, but perhaps something inside is clouding your judgment.  At any rate, I don't believe he said those things.  And these are snippets from Snopes on the subject (bold is mine):

 

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Four reputable news outlets, all citing anonymous sources, report President Donald Trump disparaged US troops, veterans, and missing service members, with several outlets reporting he has called military members “losers.” Yet the president, along with current and former staff on the record, continues to dispute those stories.

As with many things in the left's play book, if you say something loud enough and often enough, it becomes true (at least for some).

 

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“If they really exist, if people really exist that would have said that, they’re lowlifes and they’re liars,” Trump told reporters late on Thursday night about the Atlantic story. “And I would be willing to swear on anything that I never said that about our fallen heroes. There is nobody that respects them more,” adding, “What animal would say such a thing?”

 

And then there is the support from the people with him at the time, even people who left him and are writing harsh books about him, declaring that he never said those words.  I get it that TDS is a strong force within some, but just like the "anonymous source that will surely bring Trump down" during the impeachment, these anonymous sources carry zero weight for the logical types.

 

I don't keep links to this sort of stuff, but a quick look on Twitter shows this:

 

And yes, Trump did call McCain a loser - After he raised $1million for McCain's campaign and McCain (wait for it) lost the election.  (We'll leave the USS Forrestal and his BS tales of POW-ship out of it for now, he's dead, and what he did is done.  He served, and that is enough for me.  How well he served is between him and whomever is in charge of his current fleet.)

 

[moxy 1,051]

I don't think you understand how anonymous sources work. There's a lot of editorial verification that goes into publishing the narrative of anonymous sources. There are internal checks, and publications and journalists put their reputations on the line when using anonymous sources. It's a cornerstone of journalism in a free society, and they've been used from the beginning. Deep Throat was an anonymous source. Anonymous sources were used to bring Bill Clinton down. A single anonymous source could possibly be dismissed. Four is pretty solid. And yes, of course the President and his staff are going to deny it. Any President and their staff is going to deny something that makes them look bad, whether they did it or not.

 

Trump didn't just call McCain a loser. He said of McCain, "He's not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." Not only was this an attack on McCain's service, capture, and torture for almost six years at the hands of the enemy, but it was an attack on all POWs. "I like people who weren't captured." That's not just aimed at McCain. If Obama or Clinton or any Democrat had said that, this board would have lit up with rage. But it was your guy who said it, so you and the rest of this crew perform these contortions to parse his words and justify the unjustifiable. But it's not just the VJ crew, it's the entire Republican party. So when I say that Republicans have abandoned their core values, such as a deep respect for our military, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. You don't have to be a liberal, you don't have to declare yourself a Democrat, to just acknowledge that Trump has, at best, a deeply flawed respect for our warfighters. But partisanship seems to be more important to you folks.

 

Your attack on McCain (re: the Forrestal, which has been completely debunked) to justify your support of Trump is disgusting and beneath my dignity to respond to, other than to say: Delete your post.

[Dashinka 24,448]

3 hours ago, moxy said:

I agree, the date should have been more formally recognized, although Biden did meet with warfighters at Langly, which to me is worth more than a hundred thousand tweets. But wrt messaging, yes, the WH staff should have been on top of that, especially for a president that puts a lot of emphasis tradition. I also know, with regards to honoring our military and those who paid the ultimate sacrifice, that you guys are a lot more concerned about what Biden didn't tweet than when the former president called the war dead "suckers and losers." So your concern about the one thing, but not the other, strikes me as purely partisan.

Yep, the "suckers and losers" statement was debunked as well by none other than John Bolton who despises Trump.  Regardless, I think this omission by the WH is more a testament of the people controlling Old Joe than Joe himself.  I am sure if he had remembered he may have said something.

[Dashinka 24,448]

1 hour ago, moxy said:

I don't think you understand how anonymous sources work. There's a lot of editorial verification that goes into publishing the narrative of anonymous sources. There are internal checks, and publications and journalists put their reputations on the line when using anonymous sources. It's a cornerstone of journalism in a free society, and they've been used from the beginning. Deep Throat was an anonymous source. Anonymous sources were used to bring Bill Clinton down. A single anonymous source could possibly be dismissed. Four is pretty solid. And yes, of course the President and his staff are going to deny it. Any President and their staff is going to deny something that makes them look bad, whether they did it or not.

 

Trump didn't just call McCain a loser. He said of McCain, "He's not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." Not only was this an attack on McCain's service, capture, and torture for almost six years at the hands of the enemy, but it was an attack on all POWs. "I like people who weren't captured." That's not just aimed at McCain. If Obama or Clinton or any Democrat had said that, this board would have lit up with rage. But it was your guy who said it, so you and the rest of this crew perform these contortions to parse his words and justify the unjustifiable. But it's not just the VJ crew, it's the entire Republican party. So when I say that Republicans have abandoned their core values, such as a deep respect for our military, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. You don't have to be a liberal, you don't have to declare yourself a Democrat, to just acknowledge that Trump has, at best, a deeply flawed respect for our warfighters. But partisanship seems to be more important to you folks.

 

Your attack on McCain (re: the Forrestal, which has been completely debunked) to justify your support of Trump is disgusting and beneath my dignity to respond to, other than to say: Delete your post.

You are kidding right?  Today's MSM does none of that if it pushes their political narrative.  

[Dashinka 24,448]

Even the White House thinks it's bad! Biden administration was 'perplexed' at Kamala's snippy Mexican press conference answers over whether she will visit the border
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9668479/Biden-administration-perplexed-Kamalas-snippy-answers-border.html

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

On 6/8/2021 at 10:52 AM, moxy said:

Your attack on McCain (re: the Forrestal, which has been completely debunked) to justify your support of Trump is disgusting and beneath my dignity to respond to, other than to say: Delete your post.

Sorry to see that you're so high and mighty you cannot debate a topic.

 

I have listened to sailors that served with McCain back then.  Have YOU?  The stories they told were far from glamorous, to say the least.  

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

33 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Even the White House thinks it's bad! Biden administration was 'perplexed' at Kamala's snippy Mexican press conference answers over whether she will visit the border
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9668479/Biden-administration-perplexed-Kamalas-snippy-answers-border.html