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Food for considerable thought.  Comments?

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Americans Are Irrationally Afraid Of COVID Because The Ruling Class Has Demonized Risk

by Kylee Zempel - April 20, 2021

 

"Why do so many vaccinated people remain fearful?" David Leonhardt asks with a straight face in Monday's New York Times morning newsletter about "Irrational Covid Fears."  [...]

 

Continues here:   https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/20/americans-are-irrationally-afraid-of-covid-because-the-ruling-class-has-demonized-risk/  

 

 

 

 

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I know my own risk ratio. Husband had covid while kids and I didn’t (tested). High vit d levels and we always washed our hands frequently even pre-covid. Currently vacationing by the Red Sea - which involved two flights and three airports (how dare we!). 

 But I do get it that the US media is all about hyping up any potential risk - I’m surprised people watching mainstream media there even leave their house. 
The 100 days I spent in the US June to September last year I didn’t even turn on news channels as I knew all talk will be about covid. 

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Well then, you're obviously a reckless Typhoid Mary, si ma'am! :P 

9 minutes ago, milimelo said:

I’m surprised people watching mainstream media there even leave their house. 

Where's the +100 upvote button?

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12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

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08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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49 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

what's bizarre is 3 people sitting around a table all of who have had 2 shots wearing masks

Virtue signaling.

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"Demonized risk" is a very weird thing to say when risk means people getting sick or dying from the spread of this virus.

As an aside, masking for the past year has meant getting less minor colds, so I'm pretty okay with continuing to wear one. Plus, I like shopping for masks I like in the same way that I like shopping for shirts. I really don't see why people are complaining this much about them.

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46 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

"Demonized risk" is a very weird thing to say when risk means people getting sick or dying from the spread of this virus.

As an aside, masking for the past year has meant getting less minor colds, so I'm pretty okay with continuing to wear one. Plus, I like shopping for masks I like in the same way that I like shopping for shirts. I really don't see why people are complaining this much about them.

So which risk where people can be injured, become sick, or die are acceptable?

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3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So which risk where people can be injured, become sick, or die are acceptable?

They're not, so I don't see how the fear of COVID is somehow misplaced.

 

I'm fully vaccinated, but I know people close to me who aren't yet, so I'm not suddenly going to throw all covid precautions out of the window just because I'm vaccinated if I'm still going to come into contact with those people on a near-daily basis.

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34 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

They're not, so I don't see how the fear of COVID is somehow misplaced.

 

I'm fully vaccinated, but I know people close to me who aren't yet, so I'm not suddenly going to throw all covid precautions out of the window just because I'm vaccinated if I'm still going to come into contact with those people on a near-daily basis.

Didn’t really answer my question. 

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2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Didn’t really answer my question. 

You asked which were acceptable. I answered that question. Social distancing and other common-sense rules are preferable to spreading covid.

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12 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

You asked which were acceptable. I answered that question. Social distancing and other common-sense rules are preferable to spreading covid.

So you do not do anything that is risky like driving a car, taking a shower?

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20 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So you do not do anything that is risky like driving a car, taking a shower?

You're not really comparing taking a shower to a pandemic, are you?

And there are seatbelt laws, speed limits, driver licenses and a whole bunch of other things that we've implemented to try to lower the amount of car accidents.

 

I'm also pretty sure that if your shower started boiling you alive, you'd think twice about getting under there without changing something about the water temperature.

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46 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

You're not really comparing taking a shower to a pandemic, are you?

And there are seatbelt laws, speed limits, driver licenses and a whole bunch of other things that we've implemented to try to lower the amount of car accidents.

 

I'm also pretty sure that if your shower started boiling you alive, you'd think twice about getting under there without changing something about the water temperature.

I am comparing things that can lead to death.  I hadn’t thought about being boiled alive in the shower, usually it is a slip that can lead to injury or death, but the point of the OP is simply that we are heading to a zero risk mentality.  Yes, there are safety features in cars, but people still die, we take precautions for Covid like getting vaccinated, but now we are headed to a point where people are not getting the jab, seems like a messaging thing to me coming from those ruling class elitist.  The one certainty in life is at some point it will end.

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