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Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

  You mean whatabout FOX outright lying about election fraud?

 

  I would say in the realm of propaganda, outright lying is worse than having a clear agenda against something. 

Whatever you say or in your case SHOUT.  The fact that the MSM has both a clear agenda and outright lies seems even worse, but believe what you want.  I really don't care, we all know FOX leans Right, but as compared to the other MSM big guys, FOX is more in the center than any of them.

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Whatever you say or in your case SHOUT.  The fact that the MSM has both a clear agenda and outright lies seems even worse, but believe what you want.  I really don't care, we all know FOX leans Right, but as compared to the other MSM big guys, FOX is more in the center than any of them.

 

  I was responding to another poster who raised the issue of outright lying. I don't believe that accusation pertains specifically to the current topic, so I gave a current and well known example. As to CNN portraying Trump in a negative light, that is an agenda.

   You don't need to lie to make Trump look bad. He did that himself. That's why FOX had to issue a retraction to avoid getting sued over the fake election fraud coverage, whereas CNN did not have to retract their negative biased coverage of Trump. 

 

   

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22 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I was responding to another poster who raised the issue of outright lying. I don't believe that accusation pertains specifically to the current topic, so I gave a current and well known example. As to CNN portraying Trump in a negative light, that is an agenda.

   You don't need to lie to make Trump look bad. He did that himself. That's why FOX had to issue a retraction to avoid getting sued over the fake election fraud coverage, whereas CNN did not have to retract their negative biased coverage of Trump. 

 

   

Interesting how you went to that example, and not examples like the GA voting law, Russian Collusion, or the Afghanistan Russian Bounty story.  I don't think any of those were ever retracted by their respective narrative creators, but it is what it is, Left is good, Right is bad.

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27 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Interesting how you went to that example, and not examples like the GA voting law, Russian Collusion, or the Afghanistan Russian Bounty story.  I don't think any of those were ever retracted by their respective narrative creators, but it is what it is, Left is good, Right is bad.

 

  Do you mean interesting in the same way that you chose to ignore the outright lie with the election fraud coverage on Fox and chose to post about CNN's negative bias coverage of Trump? It would be good if you did catch that. 

 

  If it makes you feel better, I do tend to call out CNN more on some of the left leaning forums I have posted on. I think counterpoint is needed more on this particular forum. 

 

  You should lay off accusing others with the left is good, right is bad rubbish though. You start most of these lefty MSM bad topics. 

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12 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Do you mean interesting in the same way that you chose to ignore the outright lie with the election fraud coverage on Fox and chose to post about CNN's negative bias coverage of Trump? It would be good if you did catch that. 

 

  If it makes you feel better, I do tend to call out CNN more on some of the left leaning forums I have posted on. I think counterpoint is needed more on this particular forum. 

 

  You should lay off accusing others with the left is good, right is bad rubbish though. You start most of these lefty MSM bad topics. 

Considering the dearth of centrist libertarians here, someone has to call out the media grifters for their bias and gaslighting.  To be honest, I never really paid any attention to the fraud accusations covered by Fox or anyone else.  I believe I conceded that the election was decided quite some time ago, but feel free to believe what you want.  The fact that people fell for the Biden nice guy hiding in the basement act (which was a good strategy considering Trump's ability to step in it) and decided to elect a racist divider is their choice, we shall see what happens, but certainly we can all look forward to the huge tax increases and a huge shift to the Left.

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Considering the dearth of centrist libertarians here, someone has to call out the media grifters for their bias and gaslighting.  To be honest, I never really paid any attention to the fraud accusations covered by Fox or anyone else.  I believe I conceded that the election was decided quite some time ago, but feel free to believe what you want.  The fact that people fell for the Biden nice guy hiding in the basement act (which was a good strategy considering Trump's ability to step in it) and decided to elect a racist divider is their choice, we shall see what happens, but certainly we can all look forward to the huge tax increases and a huge shift to the Left.

 

  Nobody fell for anything with Biden. He is extremely flawed and yet for the majority, he is still infinitely preferable and less flawed than the guy he replaced. The right wing media focus on what Biden is doing wrong reveals nothing that isn't already known. Granted they are doing the same thing that CNN is accused of in this topic, and the agenda is transparent on both sides. It also shows there is still a strong disconnect on the right over the core reasons behind why Trumps lost. 

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3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Nobody fell for anything with Biden. He is extremely flawed and yet for the majority, he is still infinitely preferable and less flawed than the guy he replaced. The right wing media focus on what Biden is doing wrong reveals nothing that isn't already known. Granted they are doing the same thing that CNN is accused of in this topic, and the agenda is transparent on both sides. It also shows there is still a strong disconnect on the right over the core reasons behind why Trumps lost. 

So you are saying people want the major shift to the extreme Left on the political scale?  Oh well, we reap what we sow.  Btw, even BLM is starting to express buyer's remorse.

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   Doubt anyone wants extremism on either side, but it was pretty clear voters didn't want the lunacy that comes with following Trump either. 

So we get the lunacy of Biden and the Democrat Leftist extremism.  The whole two wrongs comes to mind.

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CNN's New "Reporter," Natasha Bertrand, is a Deranged Conspiracy Theorist and Scandal-Plagued CIA Propagandist

 

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https://greenwald.substack.com/p/cnns-new-reporter-natasha-bertrand

 

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"If Greenwald is insulting CNN (a network beyond reproach), then he is obviously a racist and a bigot and therefore probably also a Trump Deplorable.  No other conclusion is possible or acceptable.  If you try to offer an alternative, then you are the same as Greenwald.  I have canceled spoken."

Well, if you read the comments from his piece, apparently he is a sexist.

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