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Hi,

I've sent my passport today to get my IR1 visa from the Consulate of Amsterdam. I should receive it back in about 1 week.

 

I have a job offer already, and I'm thinking to move to the US in May to start working the last week of May.

 

Can I work with my visa or must I wait for my SSN or Green Card to be delivered in America? Is there some sort of SSN or related number on the visa?

 

Thanks

 

 

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3 hours ago, YellowDuneBuggy said:

Hi,

I've sent my passport today to get my IR1 visa from the Consulate of Amsterdam. I should receive it back in about 1 week.

 

I have a job offer already, and I'm thinking to move to the US in May to start working the last week of May.

 

Can I work with my visa or must I wait for my SSN or Green Card to be delivered in America? Is there some sort of SSN or related number on the visa?

 

Thanks

 

 

You will have a difficult time getting paid though

YMMV

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The CR1 visa validated with the stamp that you get when you enter the country is the equivalent to a green card.

 

As mentioned though some places have trouble paying you if you do not have your SSN card.    And from what I have read, 

it seems like real hit or miss whether you get your SSN automaticlaly (if you request it on the form....) within 10 business days of entering.   Otherwise goto local SS office and file SS-5 paperwork.   Which may be more involved these days with COVID-19..

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15 hours ago, YellowDuneBuggy said:

Hi,

I've sent my passport today to get my IR1 visa from the Consulate of Amsterdam. I should receive it back in about 1 week.

 

I have a job offer already, and I'm thinking to move to the US in May to start working the last week of May.

 

Can I work with my visa or must I wait for my SSN or Green Card to be delivered in America? Is there some sort of SSN or related number on the visa?

 

Thanks

 

 

You need an SSN to work legally along with IR1

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42 minutes ago, igoyougoduke said:

You need an SSN to work legally along with IR1

That is incorrect. OP can actually work legally without SSN but may encounter a delay in getting paid: https://www.e-verify.gov/faq/my-employee-applied-for-a-social-security-number-ssn-but-has-not-yet-received-it-what-should-i "If a newly hired employee has applied for, but has not yet received his or her SSN (e.g., the employee is a newly arrived immigrant), attach an explanation to the employee’s Form I-9 and set it aside. Then create a case in E-Verify using the employee’s SSN as soon as it is available. If you are unable to create a case by the third business day after the employee’s first day of employment, select Awaiting Social Security number when prompted by E-Verify."

 

An example of working legally before receiving SSN:

 

Also look at the following from the Texas Workforce Commission (OP's profile says Austin): https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/efte/employees_without_ssns.html

It is certainly legal to hire someone who is authorized to work in this country, but who does not have a social security number or who chooses not to disclose it.

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10 hours ago, HRQX said:

That is incorrect. OP can actually work legally without SSN but may encounter a delay in getting paid: https://www.e-verify.gov/faq/my-employee-applied-for-a-social-security-number-ssn-but-has-not-yet-received-it-what-should-i "If a newly hired employee has applied for, but has not yet received his or her SSN (e.g., the employee is a newly arrived immigrant), attach an explanation to the employee’s Form I-9 and set it aside. Then create a case in E-Verify using the employee’s SSN as soon as it is available. If you are unable to create a case by the third business day after the employee’s first day of employment, select Awaiting Social Security number when prompted by E-Verify."

 

An example of working legally before receiving SSN:

 

Also look at the following from the Texas Workforce Commission (OP's profile says Austin): https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/efte/employees_without_ssns.html

It is certainly legal to hire someone who is authorized to work in this country, but who does not have a social security number or who chooses not to disclose it.

never seen employers hiring anyone hiring those without SSN unless they are employing illegally 

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1 hour ago, igoyougoduke said:

never seen employers hiring anyone hiring those without SSN unless they are employing illegally 

If an individual has "never seen" something then it doesn't exist? That is very flawed logic.

 

In my post I shared JFH's experience which is exactly OP's situation after he enters with the IR-1; also the first link in my post was to E-verify.gov, a DHS website.

 

There are also other scenarios where employees work legally without SSN. For example, the Amish and Mennonite communities don't disclose a SSN when working within their community: https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110225035

In some religious communities these are called control numbers, not SSNs, and individuals who have these numbers may insist that they do not have SSNs for other purposes, such as obtaining identification with the MVA.

An SSN is not needed by members of these sects to file a tax return.

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1 minute ago, Nitas_man said:

SS card arrived pretty quickly

Can't compare anything today to what might have been pre pandemic 

YMMV

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