Chances for Approval? (NEED Opinions)

[haliman 8]

I've been accepted into a US community college for the Fall 2021 semester, starting in august. Some details about my case:

 

• I'm a UK citizen
• 18 years old
• College offers a transfer programme to a 4 year university with one of the best business schools in the country, will earn a bachelors
• I have around $86,000 in liquid funds, I-20 states I need $15,000 for the first year

 

I'm not sure if mentioning that I intend to transfer to a 4 year degree is grounds for denial, and I have a few ideas for proving ties to the UK but any suggestions would be great. Any questions about my case just ask

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

Transitioning is fine if you are sure you meet the requirements (a number of them are only guaranteed for instate students). How will you fund the final two years at the 4-year college?

[haliman 8]

13 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Transitioning is fine if you are sure you meet the requirements (a number of them are only guaranteed for instate students). How will you fund the final two years at the 4-year college?

well as I said I have around 86k, the first two should run me up 30k so I think I'll be fine with the remaining 50. Will the visa officer ask me to prove I can finance 4 years if i mention this?

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

17 minutes ago, haliman said:

well as I said I have around 86k, the first two should run me up 30k so I think I'll be fine with the remaining 50. Will the visa officer ask me to prove I can finance 4 years if i mention this?

What college with a top business school only has a total cost of attendance of $25k per year for out of state students? I’m not sure you’ve got the numbers on that right. I don’t think I even know of any where even just tuition is only $25k per year for out of state residents. 

 

VO may ask where the future funds will come from, but they usually don’t ask for actual proof of funds beyond the first year.

[haliman 8]

6 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

What college with a top business school only has a total cost of attendance of $25k per year for out of state students? I’m not sure you’ve got the numbers on that right. I don’t think I even know of any where even just tuition is only $25k per year for out of state residents. 

 

VO may ask where the future funds will come from, but they usually don’t ask for actual proof of funds beyond the first year.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Is there anything else about my case you would question? I'm worried about the fact that I'm only 18 and that I'm from a country with lots of higher education options. Although the refusal rate here is very low which is a plus.

[igoyougoduke 1,656]

1 hour ago, haliman said:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Is there anything else about my case you would question? I'm worried about the fact that I'm only 18 and that I'm from a country with lots of higher education options. Although the refusal rate here is very low which is a plus.

you wont be disqualified for being 18. As long as sufficient finances are taken care, they will approve the case. there is no penality for being young and savvy 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

2 hours ago, haliman said:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Is there anything else about my case you would question? I'm worried about the fact that I'm only 18 and that I'm from a country with lots of higher education options. Although the refusal rate here is very low which is a plus.

“Only 18” is pretty normal for undergraduate, obviously. Yes, it’s possible they may question why you are going for a relatively expensive option for what is an objectively inferior education compared to your options at home for the same price or less, but I presume you have your reasons for deciding on that path and that you are comfortable sharing these reasons with them.

 

You’ve ducked the question about funding, which you simply don’t have enough for what you plan to do. (Your total available funds after your first two years of CC do not have enough left over to cover one year’s cost of attendance at out of state rates at a top public or private university, much less two years, even falling short at Indiana which to my knowledge is the cheapest public with a good business school.)  On the one hand, they are likely to only ask to see one year’s worth of funds. On the other hand, any suspicion that you might work illegally  to help defray your expenses could lead to denial.

[haliman 8]

30 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

“Only 18” is pretty normal for undergraduate, obviously. Yes, it’s possible they may question why you are going for a relatively expensive option for what is an objectively inferior education compared to your options at home for the same price or less, but I presume you have your reasons for deciding on that path and that you are comfortable sharing these reasons with them.

 

You’ve ducked the question about funding, which you simply don’t have enough for what you plan to do. (Your total available funds after your first two years of CC do not have enough left over to cover one year’s cost of attendance at out of state rates at a top public or private university, much less two years, even falling short at Indiana which to my knowledge is the cheapest public with a good business school.)  On the one hand, they are likely to only ask to see one year’s worth of funds. On the other hand, any suspicion that you might work illegally  to help defray your expenses could lead to denial.

There is a scholarship available for transfer students which I should be eligible for

 

https://scholarships.louisiana.edu/prospective-students/international-students/cayenne-international-transfer-scholarship

 

And presumably this would be less expensive than a 4 year course in the UK, considering the first two years are at a community college which is significantly cheaper

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

A bachelors degree is 3 years in the UK so not an exact comp and it will be cheaper, but it’s certainly your choice to do it this way - good luck with the scholarship, it does seem pretty easy to get if that page is accurate. (I must admit when you said transfer to a top business school, Louisiana did not spring to my mind.) If you have your ducks in a row reasons and finance wise, you should be fine. 

[Suze1 366]

20 hours ago, haliman said:

College offers a transfer programme to a 4 year university with one of the best business schools in the country, will earn a bachelors

Really?

(The "BEST" business schools in the country generally do not offer bachelor degrees.)

 

"There is a scholarship available for transfer students which I should be eligible for."

Being "eligible" and being awarded it are two different things.

 

"And presumably this would be less expensive than a 4 year course in the UK, considering the first two years are at a community college which is significantly cheaper."

Don't presume that. You CANNOT got to a low ranking, cheap school for two years...and then use the credits from those two years at any BEST business school IN THIS COUNTRY. Not gonna happen.

Applying to an easy-to-get-into, inexpensive school, and using the grades and credits to transfer to one of our best, is NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

So, don't tell that marketing line to any USCIS Officer. It will not help.

 

(NB: Was offered admission and scholarship to Harvard Business School twice...and to Stanford Business School twice..when they were widely ranked in the top three in the country/world, each of the four separate years I got in.)

Edited March 17, 2021 by Suze1

[JonSeattle 202]

Louisiana is #69 on this ranking. No doubt it's a fine program, but I'm not sure that would qualify for a "one of the best" label.

 

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

 

My son transferred from a community college to a bachelor's program higher on that list, so it can be done.

 

You should be read carefully about whether such a degree is a good investment.

 

Getting an education in another country is a great way to expand your horizons. I have heard that in can be difficult in some case to show sufficient ties to your home country to get a visa, so be sure to be ready for that.

[haliman 8]

48 minutes ago, Suze1 said:

Really?

(The "BEST" business schools in the country generally do not offer bachelor degrees.)

 

"There is a scholarship available for transfer students which I should be eligible for."

Being "eligible" and being awarded it are two different things.

 

"And presumably this would be less expensive than a 4 year course in the UK, considering the first two years are at a community college which is significantly cheaper."

Don't presume that. You CANNOT got to a low ranking, cheap school for two years...and then use the credits from those two years at any BEST business school IN THIS COUNTRY. Not gonna happen.

Applying to an easy-to-get-into, inexpensive school, and using the grades and credits to transfer to one of our best, is NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

So, don't tell that marketing line to any USCIS Officer. It will not help.

 

(NB: Was offered admission and scholarship to Harvard Business School twice...and to Stanford Business School twice..when they were widely ranked in the top three in the country/world, each of the four separate years I got in.)

Oh it has masters available as well as bachelors, and as for the scholarship I'm not sure if you read the link I sent but the requirements are quite reasonable for what its worth (3.0 GPA, must be a transfer student from another institution with no bachelors degree). The 2+2 scheme for this particular school requires a completion of 60 credit hours which can then get you into the bachelors programme to earn another 60 and complete the 4 years.

 

13 minutes ago, JonSeattle said:

Louisiana is #69 on this ranking. No doubt it's a fine program, but I'm not sure that would qualify for a "one of the best" label.

 

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

 

My son transferred from a community college to a bachelor's program higher on that list, so it can be done.

 

You should be read carefully about whether such a degree is a good investment.

 

Getting an education in another country is a great way to expand your horizons. I have heard that in can be difficult in some case to show sufficient ties to your home country to get a visa, so be sure to be ready for that.

Do you know what kind of ties he demonstrated?

[JonSeattle 202]

4 minutes ago, haliman said:

Do you know what kind of ties he demonstrated?

My son is a USC, so he was in-state. The case I was referring to was someone from my alma-mater who had to withdraw for academic reasons, and  later he re-applied and was re-accepted. In-spite of that, and it being a top ranked university, he was not able to get a student visa to resume his studies because he was considered to not have sufficient ties. I don't know if someone from the UK would face that.

[Suze1 366]

Yes, there are many schools in America. Some very good, some not so.

Transferring from a community college to a four-year program is done all the time.

Do the financial analysis carefully.

 

Agree on the overseas experience...can be great to experience. But it is not so much what you look at as much as what you see that most matters.

Went to school in multiple states and multiple countries, including Cambridge Univ. School Cert. (Almost went to Cambridge U, but chose Harvard and MIT instead. Harvard roommate did his PhD at Oxford and is still in UK.)

 

Again, NO TOP business school lets you do half their coursework at a much lower ranked school. Don't kid yourself, and don't let some school con you.

As long as you do not think it is ONE OF THE BEST in the COUNTRY...no worries.

But if what you really want is to actually attend one of our best,  and THAT is why you want to matriculate in the US, then you are not going to be achieving that.

 

[haliman 8]

5 minutes ago, Suze1 said:

Yes, there are many schools in America. Some very good, some not so.

Transferring from a community college to a four-year program is done all the time.

Do the financial analysis carefully.

 

Agree on the overseas experience...can be great to experience. But it is not so much what you look at as much as what you see that most matters.

Went to school in multiple states and multiple countries, including Cambridge Univ. School Cert. (Almost went to Cambridge U, but chose Harvard and MIT instead. Harvard roommate did his PhD at Oxford and is still in UK.)

 

Again, NO TOP business school lets you do half their coursework at a much lower ranked school. Don't kid yourself, and don't let some school con you.

As long as you do not think it is ONE OF THE BEST in the COUNTRY...no worries.

But if what you really want is to actually attend one of our best,  and THAT is why you want to matriculate in the US, then you are not going to be achieving that.

 

Perhaps it would be better to say very high ranking as opposed to "one of the best", one of the attractive features about this business school in particular to me is that they have state of the art bloomberg terminals for the students use as well as a lot of research into niche fields that interest me.