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9 hours ago, Dashinka said:

If you think climate change is only due to human activity, then I can understand your question.

I think I described what is observed and documented well. Do you have a theory as to why this is happening?

No too far from my house, the oldest corporation in my state ships their oyster larvae to Hawaii to mature until they develop enough shell to resist the acidity of the waters, is a direct impact to the ocean absorbing co2 from industrial activity. There is no other explanation.

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1 hour ago, nykolos said:

if were all going to burn, if Greenland is going to melt and sea levels will rise to the point that Florida will be underwater,  (were still waiting for that one to happen Al)

Hard to explain it when the 0bummers built their multi-gabillion-dollar mansion where it would be eminently floodable under the current Chicken Little theories.

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2 hours ago, nykolos said:

The author wasn't the one who analyzed 420,000 years of Ice core data from Vostok, Climate scientists from around the world did that, and they concluded that C02 lags behind temperature.

 

Again, 1945-1970 we experienced a 25 year cooling trend while C02 levels were rising, Fast forward to present and history is repeating itself, global temperatures have been declining for the last 12 years as C02 levels rise, and many scientists predict it will continue to cool into the next decade, this recent cooling period is the primary reason nobody talks about Global Warming anymore, environmentalists and politicians have moved on to the next fraud "Climate Change" 

 

Why change the word? I mean, if were all going to burn, if Greenland is going to melt and sea levels will rise to the point that Florida will be underwater,  (were still waiting for that one to happen Al) why not keep the Global Warming thing going?

 

 

The goal posts for the climate denialism cult has now shifted to fultlity. There is no denial that the changes are occuring or that the changes are anthropogenic, the last defense of the carbon polluting industry is acceptance of the inevitable. 

Edited March 20, 2021 by CanAm1980

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2 hours ago, nykolos said:

The author wasn't the one who analyzed 420,000 years of Ice core data from Vostok, Climate scientists from around the world did that, and they concluded that C02 lags behind temperature.

 

 

  No they didn't. There's plenty of primary source research out there that shows it occurs both ways. Your problem is you are getting it spoon feed it to you from a climate skeptic website. Just read the research.

 

2 hours ago, nykolos said:

 

 

Fast forward to present and history is repeating itself, global temperatures have been declining for the last 12 years as C02 levels rise, and many scientists predict it will continue to cool into the next decade, this recent cooling period is the primary reason nobody talks about Global Warming anymore, environmentalists and politicians have moved on to the next fraud "Climate Change" 

 

 

  According to NOAA, 2020 was the hottest year recorded since they began monitoring global temperature, tied with 2016. The 6 hottest years recorded are 2015-2020. That is expected to continue. I'm not sure who is telling you they are seeing a cooling trend, but you might want to find someone more credible to listen to. 

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2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 Your problem is you are getting it spoon feed it to you from a climate skeptic website. 

 

Watching the mainstream media report that mankind is to blame for our changes in weather and accepting it as fact, IS "spoon feeding" it's fed to people who are too lazy to read, to research and form their OWN opinions,  the naive and the gullible who accept what they hear on Local and Cable news as fact, like "Russian Collusion" tens of millions believed that too, they believed a complete LIE for 2 years straight based on what the MSM and Politicians spoon fed to them.. Blaming Mankind for changes in our weather is not much different, it's unproven and based solely on Government funded science, Science with an agenda, NOT outside or private science.

 

 

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7 hours ago, nykolos said:

Watching the mainstream media report that mankind is to blame for our changes in weather and accepting it as fact, IS "spoon feeding" it's fed to people who are too lazy to read, to research and form their OWN opinions,  the naive and the gullible who accept what they hear on Local and Cable news as fact, like "Russian Collusion" tens of millions believed that too, they believed a complete LIE for 2 years straight based on what the MSM and Politicians spoon fed to them.. Blaming Mankind for changes in our weather is not much different, it's unproven and based solely on Government funded science, Science with an agenda, NOT outside or private science.

 

 

 

  I agree the mainstream media has their own agenda,  but I wasn't asking you to believe that either. I was asking you to take a look at the most recent research.

 

  In a nutshell, ice core analysis faced the inherent issue that they were determining temperature from isotopes in the frozen water, but measuring CO2 from isotopes in trapped gas bubbles. The difficulty always conceded was that gas bubbles continue to move long after water molecules begin freezing. The margin of error with the initial studies was in the order of thousands of years, which was fine for geological reference time frames, but it made the data difficult to apply to our current situation. They have accounted for that now by measuring other stable isotopes in the gas bubbles and the variability is now in the order of a couple of hundred years, and the variability goes in either direction. Sometimes temperature changes first, sometimes CO2. A lot of that depends on the other factors that contributed and they often can't determine what those were with near enough accuracy either.    

 

  What we know for sure is global mean temperature has increased, CO2 is a greenhouse gas based on it's physical properties, and CO2 has been increasing. Regardless of what one chooses to believe, you should be able to incorporate those facts into it. Don't argue that it's getting cooler.  

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On 3/20/2021 at 1:50 PM, Steeleballz said:

 

  I agree the mainstream media has their own agenda,  but I wasn't asking you to believe that either. I was asking you to take a look at the most recent research.

 

  In a nutshell, ice core analysis faced the inherent issue that they were determining temperature from isotopes in the frozen water, but measuring CO2 from isotopes in trapped gas bubbles. The difficulty always conceded was that gas bubbles continue to move long after water molecules begin freezing. The margin of error with the initial studies was in the order of thousands of years, which was fine for geological reference time frames, but it made the data difficult to apply to our current situation. They have accounted for that now by measuring other stable isotopes in the gas bubbles and the variability is now in the order of a couple of hundred years, and the variability goes in either direction. Sometimes temperature changes first, sometimes CO2. A lot of that depends on the other factors that contributed and they often can't determine what those were with near enough accuracy either.    

 

  What we know for sure is global mean temperature has increased, CO2 is a greenhouse gas based on it's physical properties, and CO2 has been increasing. Regardless of what one chooses to believe, you should be able to incorporate those facts into it. Don't argue that it's getting cooler.  

Is that the Michael Mann approach to researching and data massaging?  The climate scientists are right about one thing though, there are a lot of factors and the climate of the earth is hugely complex, and in many cases there is not a whole lot that man can control or even model.  All the predictions of doing this or doing that and the global temperature will drop by a tenth of a degree Celsius or so is really a joke, and if the folks pushing the radicalization of global warming such as our new Czar, the venerable John Kerry, or others like the rev. Al Gore, or name a Hollywood hypocrite, then they would actually practice what they preached.  In the meantime, we get all these "leaders" flying all over the world to hold their kumbaya sessions to what end, so the little guy pays more to live their lives, and as the Democrats hope, become even more dependent on the nanny state they are creating.

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On 3/19/2021 at 11:25 PM, CanAm1980 said:

I think I described what is observed and documented well. Do you have a theory as to why this is happening?

No too far from my house, the oldest corporation in my state ships their oyster larvae to Hawaii to mature until they develop enough shell to resist the acidity of the waters, is a direct impact to the ocean absorbing co2 from industrial activity. There is no other explanation.

There is no other explanation?  Seems quite simplistic to me.  Btw, the water itself is not acidic meaning the pH is not less than 7, but rather the basicity of water is reducing, which could very well have natural explanations especially since it seems quite localized.

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15 hours ago, Dashinka said:

basicity

Using big words!  Reported!!!