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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Hello all,

 

It's been quite a journey the past few years.  From the K1 Visa all the way up to the N-400.

 

I am beginning to put the guides, information, checklists, etc...  all together now to file the N-400 with (for) my wife.

 

I had a question. What has been the general thoughts (pro's / con's?) of mail filing and electronic filing? Has one been better than the other?

 

And is there anything I should know before beginning this N-400 process and putting together the application?

 

Thank you!!!!!!

K1 Visa Process:

USCIS I-129F File Date:  January 4th, 2017

USCIS I-129F Receive Date:  January 5th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA1 Date:  January 11th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA2 Date:  April 25th, 2017

DOS NVC Receive:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Case Number Issued:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Leave Date:  May 18th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Receive Date:  May 19th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Sent K1 Packet 3/4 via Email:  June 12th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Interview Date:  July 5th, 2017 (APPROVED!)

DOS Bogota VISA Received In-Hand: July 14th, 2017

Point of Entry into the United States: August 15th, 2017 (Newark)

Marriage:  October 19th, 2017

 

AOS Process:

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) File Date:  November 6th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Receive Date:  November 7th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Text Receipt Notification Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) NOA1 Notice Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS) & I-765 (EAD) Biometrics Appointment: December 7th, 2017

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Approval Date: January 17th, 2018

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Combo Card Receive Date: January 26th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Interview Date Scheduled for: February 14th, 2018 (Recommended For Approval!)

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Approval Date: February 15th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Green Card (2 Year) Received: February 24th, 2018

 

Removal of Conditions Process:

USCIS I-751 File Date:  November 20th, 2019

USCIS I-751 NOA Date:  November 26th, 2019

USCIS I-751 Biometrics Appointment:  February 27th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Interview Date:  WAIVED

USCIS I-751 Approval Date:  October 13th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Green Card (10 Year) Received:  October 19th, 2020

 

Citizenship through Naturalization Process

Eligible as of February 18th, 2021...

Preparing for Filing.....

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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In my wife's case she filed via mail because at that time e-filing was just starting out.  If we were to do it today, we would do it electronically due to the ease of filing as well as the payment method.  One thing that has come up from time-to-time with online filing is when someone files immediately after their 90 day window opens up.  It appears there may be computer clocks that tag things according to their local time and sometimes it shows up as filing a day too early, of course the easy fix is to wait a day or two before submitting the application online once the 90 day window opens up.  As to the difference to filing online vs mail as to processing times, I have not seen any real difference (there are some anecdotal reports of online being faster, but no real trend), the N400 processing times will vary widely across the nation since these are all governed by the local USCIS office workloads.  That all told, I would definitely file online if we were doing it today.

 

As to what to know before filing, make sure you have any time spent outside the US since becoming an LPR closely calculated, don't forget about any minor issues like traffic tickets if applicable.  There is very little required evidence required for the N400 even if filing under the 3 year rule, but there is a lot of documentation asked for at the interview stage, many people filing online add that interview evidence to the online application, but one should still plan to take copies of it to the interview.  Beyond that, the N400 is fairly simple overall.

 

Good Luck!

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Thank you kindly for your response and insight. I've been spending the morning looking into this all and it does seem electronic filing is probably the way to go. Now, it's just time to do it.

K1 Visa Process:

USCIS I-129F File Date:  January 4th, 2017

USCIS I-129F Receive Date:  January 5th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA1 Date:  January 11th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA2 Date:  April 25th, 2017

DOS NVC Receive:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Case Number Issued:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Leave Date:  May 18th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Receive Date:  May 19th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Sent K1 Packet 3/4 via Email:  June 12th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Interview Date:  July 5th, 2017 (APPROVED!)

DOS Bogota VISA Received In-Hand: July 14th, 2017

Point of Entry into the United States: August 15th, 2017 (Newark)

Marriage:  October 19th, 2017

 

AOS Process:

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) File Date:  November 6th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Receive Date:  November 7th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Text Receipt Notification Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) NOA1 Notice Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS) & I-765 (EAD) Biometrics Appointment: December 7th, 2017

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Approval Date: January 17th, 2018

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Combo Card Receive Date: January 26th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Interview Date Scheduled for: February 14th, 2018 (Recommended For Approval!)

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Approval Date: February 15th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Green Card (2 Year) Received: February 24th, 2018

 

Removal of Conditions Process:

USCIS I-751 File Date:  November 20th, 2019

USCIS I-751 NOA Date:  November 26th, 2019

USCIS I-751 Biometrics Appointment:  February 27th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Interview Date:  WAIVED

USCIS I-751 Approval Date:  October 13th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Green Card (10 Year) Received:  October 19th, 2020

 

Citizenship through Naturalization Process

Eligible as of February 18th, 2021...

Preparing for Filing.....

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nicaragua
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E-file!

no chance of snail-mail delays or lost packages

No waiting for the payment to get deducted

No risk of not-having-made-a-copy before sending the package and then needing it later

 

A Tale of Two Dakotaraguans

K1 Journey - 78 Days

 

Sent I-129F - 11/16/15 [Day 1]
NOA1 - 11/18 (Hard copy: 11/24) [Day 2, Day 8]
NOA2 - 12/18 (Hard copy: 12/26) [Day 32, Day 40]
NVC received file: 1/05/2016 [Day 50] Obtained NVC invoice number, paid visa fee, filled out DS-160: 1/06 [Day 51]
Fiancé's medical: 1/12 9:00am [Day 57]
Interview: 1/22 9:30am, Approved! [67 days] (F)
Visa status on ceac site= "AP": 1/25, "Issued":01/27, "In Transit: 2/02", Visa packet in hand: 2/03 [Day 78]
POE: (Houston) 2/04, North Dakota arrival: 2/05

Married (civil): 2/05/16 (L)

AOS - 55 Days

 

I-485, AP, EAD sent : 3/03/2016 [Day 1]

Delivered: 3/04 [Day 2]

Electronic NOA1: 3/08 [Day 5]  NOA1 Hardcopy rcv'd in mail: 3/12 [Day 9]; Biometric Notification rcv'd in mail: 3/26 [Day 23]; Biometrics Appt: 4/06 in Fargo, ND [Day 33]

Notification(s): "Your new card is being produced" 4/23 [Day 48] ; "Your case was approved" 4/26 [Day 51]; "Your card was mailed on 4/27" 4/28 [Day 53]

Green Card in Hand: 4/30 [Day 55]

D-day ("Dress day"/I do...again Day/wedding reception): 9/10/16

ROC - 390 days 

Spoiler

Window opens: 1/24/2018

Package sent: 1/26, Delivered on 1/29 at 11:17am to CSC - [Day 1]

Check cashed: 1/31 [Day 3]

NOA1: 1/29 [Day 1]; NOA rcv'd in mail: 2/02 [Day 4]

Biometrics  Sent 5/5, rcv'd in mail 5/12 [Day 107]

Biometrics appt: Not required

18 Month extension letter received, dated 8/18: 8/24/18 [Day 211]

"New Card Being Produced" - 2/11/19 [Day 382], email "we mailed your card on 2/14" - 2/15

Card arrived: 2/19/19 [Day 390]

Citizenship - 643 Days

Spoiler

Window opens: 01/24/2019

E-file: 01/28/2019 [Day 1]

Biometrics = scheduled: 02/01 [Day 4], view uploaded document: 02/05 [Day 8], appointment day: 02/19 [Day 22] In Fargo, ND

Interview scheduled notification online: 9/3/20 [Day 585]

Interview in Minneapolis, MN: 10/20/20 [Day 632] at 12:15 PM: passed/approved

Oath Ceremony: scheduled 10/20, view letter online 10/21

Oath : Fargo, ND 2:15pm at sanctuary events center. No guests allowed

 

1808 total days of thinking about/waiting for immigrations!

Applied for US Passport 11/4/2020, application approved 1/26/21, passport and naturalization cert received in mailbox: 1/28/21 📘

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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We e-filed, and I walked a good friend through his e-filing as well.  WAY easier if you have access to electronic copies of your documents.  Was so much easier than the I-751 filing!!!

 

Good luck!

 

Sukie in NY

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Our Prior Journey

N-400 Naturalization

18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

17-Aug-2018 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

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Efiling for all the reasons mentioned above plus it tells you exactly which docs you need for your particular case,  and and the system does the dates calc for continuous residence and physical presence (and warns you if there is a potential eligibility issue here). It’s also easy to add a document later to the case if for any reason you want to do that. Particularly now when people are reporting a month or more to get a receipt notice from physical submission it’s nice to have it instantly.

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Filed: Other Country: Saudi Arabia
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E-file tips (from Saturday night)

 

Small files, they limit the size of PDF scans

if it wont upload, hit refresh, then check it


BIG WARNING:: Every time you close and return to the application it resets the qualification to “5-yr”.  You have to manually keep resetting to “3 years/USC spouse”.  I couldn’t figure out why.  It’s some kind of weird default

 

If you cant pay on the computer, log into the account through your phone and you can pay that way.  I have no idea what that was about.  “Error sending you to payment site” over and over through the PC browser.   Went right to the “pony up and pay” through the phone browser.
 

I know they want evidence but we submitted our previous lease, house deed, drivers licenses with matching addresses going back to 2014, 3 years of matching auto insurance, and bank statements in 3-month intervals going back >3 years.   On that screen you can also put kiddos birth certificates, etc
 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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14 hours ago, little immigrant said:

I'll help my husband efile when it's time

 

Btw your profile still says AOS pending 

Thank you, I thought the timeline updates would update profile. I didn't realize it was a separate thing. I updated it :)

K1 Visa Process:

USCIS I-129F File Date:  January 4th, 2017

USCIS I-129F Receive Date:  January 5th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA1 Date:  January 11th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA2 Date:  April 25th, 2017

DOS NVC Receive:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Case Number Issued:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Leave Date:  May 18th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Receive Date:  May 19th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Sent K1 Packet 3/4 via Email:  June 12th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Interview Date:  July 5th, 2017 (APPROVED!)

DOS Bogota VISA Received In-Hand: July 14th, 2017

Point of Entry into the United States: August 15th, 2017 (Newark)

Marriage:  October 19th, 2017

 

AOS Process:

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) File Date:  November 6th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Receive Date:  November 7th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Text Receipt Notification Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) NOA1 Notice Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS) & I-765 (EAD) Biometrics Appointment: December 7th, 2017

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Approval Date: January 17th, 2018

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Combo Card Receive Date: January 26th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Interview Date Scheduled for: February 14th, 2018 (Recommended For Approval!)

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Approval Date: February 15th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Green Card (2 Year) Received: February 24th, 2018

 

Removal of Conditions Process:

USCIS I-751 File Date:  November 20th, 2019

USCIS I-751 NOA Date:  November 26th, 2019

USCIS I-751 Biometrics Appointment:  February 27th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Interview Date:  WAIVED

USCIS I-751 Approval Date:  October 13th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Green Card (10 Year) Received:  October 19th, 2020

 

Citizenship through Naturalization Process

Eligible as of February 18th, 2021...

Preparing for Filing.....

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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So I started filling out the N-400 online... and well, can't figure out how to save.... I don't want to close and risk losing everything :(

K1 Visa Process:

USCIS I-129F File Date:  January 4th, 2017

USCIS I-129F Receive Date:  January 5th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA1 Date:  January 11th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA2 Date:  April 25th, 2017

DOS NVC Receive:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Case Number Issued:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Leave Date:  May 18th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Receive Date:  May 19th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Sent K1 Packet 3/4 via Email:  June 12th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Interview Date:  July 5th, 2017 (APPROVED!)

DOS Bogota VISA Received In-Hand: July 14th, 2017

Point of Entry into the United States: August 15th, 2017 (Newark)

Marriage:  October 19th, 2017

 

AOS Process:

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) File Date:  November 6th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Receive Date:  November 7th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Text Receipt Notification Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) NOA1 Notice Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS) & I-765 (EAD) Biometrics Appointment: December 7th, 2017

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Approval Date: January 17th, 2018

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Combo Card Receive Date: January 26th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Interview Date Scheduled for: February 14th, 2018 (Recommended For Approval!)

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Approval Date: February 15th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Green Card (2 Year) Received: February 24th, 2018

 

Removal of Conditions Process:

USCIS I-751 File Date:  November 20th, 2019

USCIS I-751 NOA Date:  November 26th, 2019

USCIS I-751 Biometrics Appointment:  February 27th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Interview Date:  WAIVED

USCIS I-751 Approval Date:  October 13th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Green Card (10 Year) Received:  October 19th, 2020

 

Citizenship through Naturalization Process

Eligible as of February 18th, 2021...

Preparing for Filing.....

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9 minutes ago, SkruDe said:

So I started filling out the N-400 online... and well, can't figure out how to save.... I don't want to close and risk losing everything :(

Under the file online section of the website it says

 

Once you start your form, we will automatically save your information for 30 days, or from the last time you worked on the form.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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Submitted last night :)

 

Today we got a notice that they will be able to reuse the Biometrics we last did, so no Biometrics appointment :)

K1 Visa Process:

USCIS I-129F File Date:  January 4th, 2017

USCIS I-129F Receive Date:  January 5th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA1 Date:  January 11th, 2017

USCIS I-129F NOA2 Date:  April 25th, 2017

DOS NVC Receive:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Case Number Issued:  May 12th, 2017

DOS NVC Leave Date:  May 18th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Receive Date:  May 19th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Sent K1 Packet 3/4 via Email:  June 12th, 2017

DOS Bogota Embassy Interview Date:  July 5th, 2017 (APPROVED!)

DOS Bogota VISA Received In-Hand: July 14th, 2017

Point of Entry into the United States: August 15th, 2017 (Newark)

Marriage:  October 19th, 2017

 

AOS Process:

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) File Date:  November 6th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Receive Date:  November 7th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) Text Receipt Notification Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS), I-765 (EAD), & I-131 (AP) NOA1 Notice Date: November 15th, 2017

USCIS I-485 (AOS) & I-765 (EAD) Biometrics Appointment: December 7th, 2017

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Approval Date: January 17th, 2018

USCIS I-765 (EAD) & I-131 (AP) Combo Card Receive Date: January 26th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Interview Date Scheduled for: February 14th, 2018 (Recommended For Approval!)

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Approval Date: February 15th, 2018

USCIS I-485 (AOS) Green Card (2 Year) Received: February 24th, 2018

 

Removal of Conditions Process:

USCIS I-751 File Date:  November 20th, 2019

USCIS I-751 NOA Date:  November 26th, 2019

USCIS I-751 Biometrics Appointment:  February 27th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Interview Date:  WAIVED

USCIS I-751 Approval Date:  October 13th, 2020

USCIS I-751 Green Card (10 Year) Received:  October 19th, 2020

 

Citizenship through Naturalization Process

Eligible as of February 18th, 2021...

Preparing for Filing.....

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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1 hour ago, SkruDe said:

Submitted last night :)

 

Today we got a notice that they will be able to reuse the Biometrics we last did, so no Biometrics appointment :)

Wow!  Very fast!  Congratulations 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Wales
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Great question and conversation - finally getting around to this process - married in 2010, Permanent Residence card expiring next year...Good info here!  Thanks again!

K-1 Visa / I-129F

January 11, 2010 - I mailed K-1 Visa I-129F Petition Overnight Express Mail

February 25, 2010 - Notice date of NOA2 (read the e-mail notice on his birthday 2/26/2010)

May 12, 2010 - Interview - Approved!!!

May 25, 2010 - received Visa back in time to make May 26th Flight :)

June 9, 2010 - Married!!!

AOS:

November 1, 2010 - Sent AOS, EAD & AP to Chicago via Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation

November 03, 2010 - Delivered 9:57 am, CHICAGO, IL 60603

November 10, 2010 - Received 3 e-mail & text message NOA1s from USCIS

November 12, 2010 - Received 3 NOA1s hardcopy in mail

November 19, 2010 - Received Biometrics appointment letter in mail

December 3, 2010 - AOS - I-485 transferred to CSC

December 13, 2010 - Biometrics Appointment - Milwaukee, WI - 10:00 a.m.

January 10, 2011 - AOS Touch - I-485 - Still in Initial Review

January 19, 2011 - Complete Congresswoman inquiry paperwork and deliver it to Congresswoman's office

January 20, 2011 - Received e-mail & text message saying status updated : USCIS says AOS approved & card production ordered.

January 21, 2011 - Received multiple e-mails/texts regarding updated statuses on both AOS & EAD, some confusing!

January 26, 2011 - Received Legal Permanent Resident card in mail.

ROC:

January 2013 - Filed ROC & Received approval in June 2013

N-400 / Naturalization:

2020 - Started Naturalization ppwk prior to COVID pandemic, and when we couldn't get passport photos at local AAA office - set it aside

March 2021 - Finishing Naturalization ppwk and filing ASAP

October 4, 2022 - ASAP turned into putzing and putting off...and finally filing on 10/4/22.

11/25/22 - Received notice of N-400 Interview on 1/5/23

1/5/23 - Naturalization Interview

2/9/23 - Naturlization Oath Ceremony

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