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My husband’s 2 year green card expired in January. We applied for the 10 year card in October. We received the I-797 that said that it, along with the green card, is legal proof of his status for an additional 18 months, until July 2022.

 

We are in the process of buying a house. The mortgage company has asked twice for his passport with the I-551 stamp. We gave them a copy of the expired GC as well as the I-797 stating he has legal status for quite some time. We explained that this is the document that proves his status, as USCIS doesn’t want tons of people having to come get I-551 stamps. 
 

Are we correct in insisting these are his legal documents? What can we do if they keep insisting he needs a stamp?

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Sorry I can't be of assistance, but that's weird considering that the extension letter extends proof of status for 18 months where as the stamp extends it only by 12 months! Are you dealing with a bank or local a credit union? Perhaps they are just not used to dealing with these kind of situations. Would it be possible to reach a branch manager or ask your branch to contact their headquarters?

Getting there, slowly but surely...  (I hope )

 

Together (well...mostly the Transatlanticism kind of together) Since 12/2013

 

CR-1:

 

Married in Sweden 8/2017
(Well Frontloaded) I-130 Sent 12/2017
CR-1 Approved 10/2018
POE LAX 01/11/2019

 

I-751:

 

I-751 Package Sent with UPS 11/11/2020
I-751 Received by the AZ Lockbox 11/13/2020
I-751 Check Cashed 12/31/2020
I-797 (with My Last Name Misspelled...) Received by Mail 1/2/2021

Biometrics Appointment Received by Mail...too bad I am in Europe right when it's supposed to take place 🤯 6/14/2021

Rescheduled Biometrics Appointment, the biometric technician can't change the misspelled name on file, but he enters the correct spelling of my last name as an alias 8/2/2021

Interview Ready to Be Scheduled 10/13/2021

(Two Days Later) Interview Was Scheduled 😱 10/15/2021

I-751 Interview, Petition Approved 🥳 11/19/2021

Case Status Changed to New Card Is Being Produced 11/19/2021

Case Status Changed to Case Was Approved 11/22/2021

Green Card Arrived in the Mail (Name Correctly Spelling, w00t) 11/27/2021

 

When USCIS Misspells Your Name:

 

Typographical error form filled on USCIS website 1/4/2021
Contacted USCIS if there has been any progress since THEIR error (Received a Tier 1 tracking number) 2/6/2021
Contacted USCIS again as the issue remains to be resolved (Received ANOTHER Tier 1 tracking number) 3/12/2021
Apparently USCIS chat is worthless; CALLED USCIS, Tier 1 agent promised that a Tier 2 agent would call me 4/28/2021
Received a call from a nice Tier 2 officer who said I may or may not get a correct extension letter, but just in case I would be scheduled an InfoPASS appointment 5/4/2021
Went to local USCIS service center and had to deal with a nasty and entitled customer service agent who refused to give me an I-551 stamp. National Benefits Center is supposed to mail me another I-797 within 7-10 days... So I had to waste my day, taking buses for two hours one-way just to deal with this lady's attitude? 5/7/2021

After anxiously monitoring our mailbox for a few days I DID receive a corrected I-797, w00t! All documents good to go Vaccinated Ready to visit my parents in Europe for the first time in 17 months!!  5/13/2021

The lesson: Don't use the chat for anything complicated, AND keep hassling USCIS for a response...

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While you are correct, you can't force them to accept your particular set of documents if the lender is insisting on something else.  You want/need the mortgage from them, so you will either need to educate the mortgage person you are working with or go get the I-551 stamp.  I would try both.

Best of luck.

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14 hours ago, Track13 said:

My husband’s 2 year green card expired in January. We applied for the 10 year card in October. We received the I-797 that said that it, along with the green card, is legal proof of his status for an additional 18 months, until July 2022.

 

We are in the process of buying a house. The mortgage company has asked twice for his passport with the I-551 stamp. We gave them a copy of the expired GC as well as the I-797 stating he has legal status for quite some time. We explained that this is the document that proves his status, as USCIS doesn’t want tons of people having to come get I-551 stamps. 
 

Are we correct in insisting these are his legal documents? What can we do if they keep insisting he needs a stamp?

 

 

Hi 

 

I am also in the process of buying a house but unlike you I haven't receive my I-797 extension yet, and my green card expires in May, and they asking me for the new green card. I wrote a letter of explanation detailing all the process, I'm waiting to hear from them. We are supposed to close on March 23rd and I'm getting very anxious and worried. 😩

🕙Removal of conditions Timeline🕑

FEB/09/21   - Pkg sent from my location: Florida.

FEB/10/21   - Pkg Rcvd at Phoenix, AZ PO.BOX.

MAR/16/21 - Credit card charged $680.

MAR/20/21 - SMS with case number received.  Service center: MSC

MAR/22/21 - I-797 (18 months) Received on the mail

JUL/06/21 - Biometrics appointment rcvd on the mail.

JUL/20/21 - Fingerprints taken

NOV/10/21 - Case Is ready to be scheduled for an Interview

DEC/06/21 - Interview scheduled for Jan/18/22

JAN/18/22 - Interview / Permanent green card approved

JAN/19/22 - New card being produced

JAN/24/21 - 10 year green card received on the mail

 🕙Citizenship Timeline🕑

MAR/01/22 -Applied for naturalization online

MAR/02/22- NOA received

MAR/05/22- Biometrics scheduled

APR/01/22- Biometrics taken/Case is being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

MAY/30/22- Received interview appointment 

JUL/13/22-Interview- Approved

JUL/15/22- Naturalization ceremony.

 

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The bank said it’s not them, apparently it’s a Fannie Mae rule that only people with the stamp qualify and they don’t accept anything else, even the I-797 that extends his green card for longer than the stamp. They only accept the I-551 stamp so I guess my husband can’t be on the loan, just me. Apparently even the largest of lenders are at the least, not together on immigration policy or at the most, purposefully exclusionary.

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21 minutes ago, Track13 said:

The bank said it’s not them, apparently it’s a Fannie Mae rule that only people with the stamp qualify and they don’t accept anything else, even the I-797 that extends his green card for longer than the stamp. They only accept the I-551 stamp so I guess my husband can’t be on the loan, just me. Apparently even the largest of lenders are at the least, not together on immigration policy or at the most, purposefully exclusionary.

@aaron2020 already advised you that you either have to find another lender/bank -OR- educate them/escalate for supervisor assistance. Try searching google for your lenders name along with Fannie Mae and 551 stamp. Here are some results from various lenders/websites. See if you can find one for your lender stating they are allowed to accept your NOA/expired GC or what their official company policy is. Most of these links seem to say your NOA is fine. Some even mention 751 specifically. But, if it turns out you cant use them cause they dont want your money then its their loss!  If you are using a broker you may want to find a new one- they are like car salesmen. Some can sell you certain loans others dont. Dont be forced into a loan unless you are confident you are entering into a good deal. 

 

https://singlefamily.fanniemae.com/media/7181/display

https://www.gopennymac.com/assets/documents/guides/pcg-non-us-citizen-documentation-requirements-7-3-2019.pdf

https://www.housingwire.com/wp-content/uploads/media/files/Editorial/Documents/Non-US-Citizens-loanDepot.pdf

https://wholesale.lhfs.com/download/Residency_Status_Policy_Procedures.pdf

https://www.bankersonline.com/sites/default/files/tools/aliendocprocedures.pdf

 

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5 hours ago, Track13 said:

The bank said it’s not them, apparently it’s a Fannie Mae rule that only people with the stamp qualify and they don’t accept anything else, even the I-797 that extends his green card for longer than the stamp. They only accept the I-551 stamp so I guess my husband can’t be on the loan, just me. Apparently even the largest of lenders are at the least, not together on immigration policy or at the most, purposefully exclusionary.

It's possible they're just hiding behind Fannie Mae's name to get you to cough up the documents they are familiar with. I recently had to use my expired GC + I-797 for a refi and here's the letter of explanation I submitted (to a online-only startup at that):

 

To whom it may concern,

Enclosed please find a copy of Form I-797 issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), indicating that my permanent resident card has been extended for 18 months from the original date of expiration.
I received my marriage-based Permanent Resident card in <mm/yyyy>, following my marriage to <spouse> in <mm/yyyy>. As we had been married for less than 2 years on the date that I was granted permanent resident status, I was issued a conditional permanent resident card which is conditional only upon our continued marriage for 2 years from my date of status. I met this condition in <mm/yyyy>.
Upon meeting the condition of my permanent resident status, I was eligible to receive a regular permanent resident card valid for 10 years. The USCIS received my application to remove the condition of my permanent resident status (Form I-751) on <date> and has issued Form I-797 to indicate that the validity of my current permanent resident card has been extended while my new permanent resident card is being processed. The USCIS processing times for Form I-751 at my assigned processing center can take up to <n> months, as indicated by the official processing times website (ref. attached screenshot of processing times).
Enclosed you will also find a copy of official USCIS policies which indicate the following:
•    My receipt notice (Form I-797) for filing Form I-751 extends the validity of my conditional permanent resident status for 18 months (ref. attached screenshot of USCIS policies on Removing Conditions on Permanent Residence Based on Marriage, page 2).

Thank you,
<name>

 

 

The screenshot of the policies were taken from https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-we-grant-your-green-card/conditional-permanent-residence/removing-conditions-on-permanent-residence-based-on-marriage where I expanded the item "Work Permit".

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7 hours ago, sponge_gto said:

It's possible they're just hiding behind Fannie Mae's name to get you to cough up the documents they are familiar with. I recently had to use my expired GC + I-797 for a refi and here's the letter of explanation I submitted (to a online-only startup at that):

 

To whom it may concern,

Enclosed please find a copy of Form I-797 issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), indicating that my permanent resident card has been extended for 18 months from the original date of expiration.
I received my marriage-based Permanent Resident card in <mm/yyyy>, following my marriage to <spouse> in <mm/yyyy>. As we had been married for less than 2 years on the date that I was granted permanent resident status, I was issued a conditional permanent resident card which is conditional only upon our continued marriage for 2 years from my date of status. I met this condition in <mm/yyyy>.
Upon meeting the condition of my permanent resident status, I was eligible to receive a regular permanent resident card valid for 10 years. The USCIS received my application to remove the condition of my permanent resident status (Form I-751) on <date> and has issued Form I-797 to indicate that the validity of my current permanent resident card has been extended while my new permanent resident card is being processed. The USCIS processing times for Form I-751 at my assigned processing center can take up to <n> months, as indicated by the official processing times website (ref. attached screenshot of processing times).
Enclosed you will also find a copy of official USCIS policies which indicate the following:
•    My receipt notice (Form I-797) for filing Form I-751 extends the validity of my conditional permanent resident status for 18 months (ref. attached screenshot of USCIS policies on Removing Conditions on Permanent Residence Based on Marriage, page 2).

Thank you,
<name>

 

 

The screenshot of the policies were taken from https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-we-grant-your-green-card/conditional-permanent-residence/removing-conditions-on-permanent-residence-based-on-marriage where I expanded the item "Work Permit".

I hate to name drop but was it Better? They are making this way harder than it needs to be

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1 hour ago, Track13 said:

I hate to name drop but was it Better? They are making this way harder than it needs to be

Yes, I was using Better. What a guess 😮

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As stated above, find another one or escalate. Personally I would mention they are setting themselves up for a nice lawsuit. Discrimination based on national origin is still a thing in this country. They are not allowed to make up there own rules on these things. There is proof of legal presence and that is it. Time to put your foot down.

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