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51 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I think these are open investigations, and investigations take time if they are to be done right. There is low hanging fruit and then there are other things that need more digging into. It's only been 8 weeks remember. I think I hear about what happened at the DNC and RNC buildings at least once a week, though I have not been paying a lot of attention this past week (health emergency at home that is resolving, hopefully).

 

I also think it's a distinction without a difference to say because he did not have the firearms (maybe) with him at the Capitol, that that somehow does not count. And we can disagree about that in good faith I think. He was at the Capitol and arrested on firearms charges by the Capitol police. Where would the Capitol police arrest him if not at or near the Capitol? 

I hope everything gets better for you health wise.

 

Where do you hear this about those buildings from? Because I hear anything from the MSM but independent media is where it is at

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Blm and antifa burn america down for months causing billions in property loss and many many killed and injured. 

 

Look over there everyone its white supremist.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Blm and antifa burn america down for months causing billions in property loss and many many killed and injured. 

 

Look over there everyone its white supremist.

 

 

Look over there?

I call 🐂. We never saw the Capitol attacked, bear spray, stun guns, Congresspeople hunkered under their desks fearing for their lives? I have been under fire in the workplace and it is terrifying.

 

 

I agree resulted in 20 dead  and over several months , but 9000 mostly peaceful protests.  No one here was promoting violence or property damage on behalf of BLM protesters and even Helen Keller could see that is not the goal of the blm movement. How many peace officers were killed in those 9000 protests?

 

How many of those deaths were from handguns? Maybe those protests should have had zero tolerance for hand guns in the protest zones.  

 

 

 

 

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White Supremacists include PoC.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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7 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

Look over there?

I call 🐂. We never saw the Capitol attacked, bear spray, stun guns, Congresspeople hunkered under their desks fearing for their lives? I have been under fire in the workplace and it is terrifying.

 

 

I agree resulted in 20 dead  and over several months , but 9000 mostly peaceful protests.  No one here was promoting violence or property damage on behalf of BLM protesters and even Helen Keller could see that is not the goal of the blm movement. How many peace officers were killed in those 9000 protests?

 

How many of those deaths were from handguns? Maybe those protests should have had zero tolerance for hand guns in the protest zones.  

 

 

 

 

Even if a protest is mostly peaceful, it does not excuse the violence perpetrated on behalf of or because of the protests.  The simple fact is the hypocrisy from the Left is huge, but of course that is just fine.  I agree, Helen Keller would see the real goal of the BLM protests, and it is the same as these folks that committed crimes on January 6th (i.e. overturning the government and instituting their own vision for political power).

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5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Even if a protest is mostly peaceful, it does not excuse the violence perpetrated on behalf of or because of the protests. 

 

Agreed to the on behalf of, much of the violence came from counter-protestors though and at least some with anarchy in mind.

 

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The simple fact is the hypocrisy from the Left is huge, but of course that is just fine. 

Hypocrisy is part of the human condition and not restricted to left or right. Not being able to condemn the attack on the Capitol building is a different level of cognitive dissonance.

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I agree, Helen Keller would see the real goal of the BLM protests

 

 

, and it is the same as these folks that committed crimes on January 6th (i.e. overturning the government and instituting their own vision for political power).

Clearly, BLM was not about overturning the government with violence. Instituting a new vision of political power is exactly what BLM is about, and using the ballot, petition and peaceable assembly is exactly how it is done. I don't disagree with the social and political aims of the movement, even if I disagree with some of the specific "planks"

 

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27 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Agreed to the on behalf of, much of the violence came from counter-protestors though and at least some with anarchy in mind.

 

Hypocrisy is part of the human condition and not restricted to left or right. Not being able to condemn the attack on the Capitol building is a different level of cognitive dissonance.

Clearly, BLM was not about overturning the government with violence. Instituting a new vision of political power is exactly what BLM is about, and using the ballot, petition and peaceable assembly is exactly how it is done. I don't disagree with the social and political aims of the movement, even if I disagree with some of the specific "planks"

 

So tell me how counter-protesters were responsible for the BLM/Antifa activists storming a federal courthouse and attempting to kill those inside?  Were the counter-protesters present when businesses were being looted and destroyed in Wisconsin by BLM/Antifa?  We had a Summer of violence against government institutions and businesses that was largely ignored by the MSM and the Left/Dems, but January 6th was the worst attack in the history of the country?  Were those protesters using commercial fireworks and high power lasers?   Btw, no one here has ever failed to condemn the attack on the Capitol, and no one has tried to justify it like you are trying to justify the violence by BLM/Antifa.  You say clearly BLM is not about over-turning the government while ignoring their actual Marxist intent.  Whatever, at least we know Helen Keller would have seen it clearly. 

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So tell me how counter-protesters were responsible for the BLM/Antifa activists storming a federal courthouse and attempting to kill those inside? 

 

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

 

Were the counter-protesters present when businesses were being looted and destroyed in Wisconsin by BLM/Antifa? 

 

We had a Summer of violence against government institutions and businesses that was largely ignored by the MSM and the Left/Dems, but January 6th was the worst attack in the history of the country?  Were those protesters using commercial fireworks and high power lasers?   Btw, no one here has ever failed to condemn the attack on the Capitol, and no one has tried to justify it like you are trying to justify the violence by BLM/Antifa.  You say clearly BLM is not about over-turning the government while ignoring their actual Marxist intent.  Whatever, at least we know Helen Keller would have seen it clearly. 

How am I justifying violence? 

I just stated that violence came from protestors, counter protestors and anarchists. 

 

And..yes there has been defense of Proud Boys and Oath keepers and social media platforms that enable violence before and after in this forum.

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18 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

 

How am I justifying violence? 

I just stated that violence came from protestors, counter protestors and anarchists. 

 

And..yes there has been defense of Proud Boys and Oath keepers and social media platforms that enable violence before and after in this forum.

You said they were using the ballot box, petition and peaceful protesting, but for some reason completely ignoring the fact that BLM/Antifa is initiating, and encouraging the violence all on their own with almost no push from outside groups.  Sure, just like January 6th, there were folks there peacefully assembling, but regardless of the supposed or imagined message, violence is wrong.

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