Wife getting dual.

[javadown2 308]

So my wife just passed citizenship interview and oath ceremony will be next week. We plan to apply for her dual immediately, does anyone know the approximate time to finish this? We will also of course immediately file for US Passport, expedited. We just want it all done so when the first chance it's open for travel into the Philippines we can go, preferably once they stop requiring quarantine on arrival and then again with province/barangay! We will either fly to San Francisco or LA consulate.

[payxibka 10,045]

7 minutes ago, javadown2 said:

So my wife just passed citizenship interview and oath ceremony will be next week. We plan to apply for her dual immediately, does anyone know the approximate time to finish this? We will also of course immediately file for US Passport, expedited. We just want it all done so when the first chance it's open for travel into the Philippines we can go, preferably once they stop requiring quarantine on arrival and then again with province/barangay! We will either fly to San Francisco or LA consulate.

Passports are taking on average 8 to 10 or so from application 

[javadown2 308]

24 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Passports are taking on average 8 to 10 or so from application 

Ok, thanks for the heads up..we won't go to the Philippines until she has it all done...once all is completed no more headaches with travel to and from the Philippines....hopefully they relax travel restrictions soon though, but doubtful!

[payxibka 10,045]

Just now, javadown2 said:

Ok, thanks for the heads up..we won't go to the Philippines until she has it all done...once all is completed no more headaches with travel to and from the Philippines....hopefully they relax travel restrictions soon though, but doubtful!

My wife is more pessimistic than me.  She is thinking yet another year before we go home 

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

10 minutes ago, payxibka said:

My wife is more pessimistic than me.  She is thinking yet another year before we go home 

Duterte just recently extended the state of calamity into September.  Not one vaccine has been given.

12 minutes ago, javadown2 said:

Ok, thanks for the heads up..we won't go to the Philippines until she has it all done...once all is completed no more headaches with travel to and from the Philippines....hopefully they relax travel restrictions soon though, but doubtful!

If I were you, I would stay away until everything is normal.  This place is a mess of unorganized and disconnected bureaucracy right now.

Edited February 25, 2021 by seekingthetruth

[javadown2 308]

1 hour ago, seekingthetruth said:

Duterte just recently extended the state of calamity into September.  Not one vaccine has been given.

If I were you, I would stay away until everything is normal.  This place is a mess of unorganized and disconnected bureaucracy right now.

Well we will see later in the year, we are In a lease here in Phoenix until end of November. So no hurry.

 

[javadown2 308]

1 hour ago, payxibka said:

My wife is more pessimistic than me.  She is thinking yet another year before we go home 

Nah, they NEED  the tourist....already signs that they are allowing inside travel to Cebu for tourism. Maybe fully open by end of year, that is my guess. 

[Talako 781]

We spoke to the Houston Consulate about this two weeks ago.  Their estimate was 4 to 6 weeks for dual citizenship.

 

Of course after that, you have to get a new passport which is another waiting game of 6 to 8 weeks. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

On 2/24/2021 at 11:19 PM, javadown2 said:

Nah, they NEED  the tourist....already signs that they are allowing inside travel to Cebu for tourism. Maybe fully open by end of year, that is my guess. 

They may NEED tourists but that doesn't mean that they will come. I am not even going to go back this year and waste two weeks of my visit sitting in quarantine. Which that is what is happening out in the provinces. If you come from Manila to somewhere in Mindanao or the Visaya region you get quarantined for 2 weeks. 

[Celebi 136]

On 2/24/2021 at 8:47 PM, javadown2 said:

So my wife just passed citizenship interview and oath ceremony will be next week. We plan to apply for her dual immediately, does anyone know the approximate time to finish this? We will also of course immediately file for US Passport, expedited. We just want it all done so when the first chance it's open for travel into the Philippines we can go, preferably once they stop requiring quarantine on arrival and then again with province/barangay! We will either fly to San Francisco or LA consulate.

Congrats on your wife becoming a USC! 

If you don't mind me asking, what are the pros and cons of being dual vs just being USC? 

[Broccoli Girl 19]

43 minutes ago, Celebi said:

Congrats on your wife becoming a USC! 

If you don't mind me asking, what are the pros and cons of being dual vs just being USC? 

The biggest reason I know why people go for dual is if they own land in the PH. Non-Filipino citizens cannot own land.

[Chancy 6,241]

13 minutes ago, Broccoli Girl said:

The biggest reason I know why people go for dual is if they own land in the PH. Non-Filipino citizens cannot own land.

 

Former Filipino citizens can actually own land in the Philippines.  But they are subject to limitations (such as land area) that do not apply to citizens.  More info here -- http://www.chicagopcg.dfa.gov.ph/land-ownership-by-former-filipino-citizens

[Broccoli Girl 19]

14 minutes ago, Chancy said:

 

Former Filipino citizens can actually own land in the Philippines.  But they are subject to limitations (such as land area) that do not apply to citizens.  More info here -- http://www.chicagopcg.dfa.gov.ph/land-ownership-by-former-filipino-citizens

Oh nice. Thanks for sharing!

[ultrasoul 51]

On 2/25/2021 at 12:57 PM, Talako said:

We spoke to the Houston Consulate about this two weeks ago.  Their estimate was 4 to 6 weeks for dual citizenship.

 

Of course after that, you have to get a new passport which is another waiting game of 6 to 8 weeks. 

@Talako @javadown2 

 

Because PHL passports are only issued in the PHL, applying for a new PHL passport at a PHL consulate/ embassy takes 6-8 weeks as the passports have to go from DFA Manila -> Houston Consulate -> Your house via USPS priority mail.

 

As long as your wife is planning to be in the PHL for at least 3 weeks to be on the safe side, it's best to only apply for dual citizenship at the Houston consulate, enter PHL with her US passport, and then apply for a new PHL passport at a DFA office in the Philippines.

 

You'll save money too- 950 PHP (~ USD $20) or 1200 PHP expedited (~ USD $25) compared to USD $60 + USD $7.95 priority flat rate if done at a PHL consulate/ embassy in the US.

As I said on another thread- if you both have children and you want your children to acquire PHL citizenship (in addition to their US citizenship), you will need to re-register both your marriage and birth of your children that took place outside PHL with the PHL consulate/ embassy in the US. COVID has made this process much easier- there used to be an in-person appointment required of these 2 processes but now mail in is allowed (at least for states under the Washington DC embassy or New York consulate jurisdiction) 

Edited March 2, 2021 by ultrasoul

[javadown2 308]

On 3/2/2021 at 12:54 PM, ultrasoul said:

@Talako @javadown2 

 

Because PHL passports are only issued in the PHL, applying for a new PHL passport at a PHL consulate/ embassy takes 6-8 weeks as the passports have to go from DFA Manila -> Houston Consulate -> Your house via USPS priority mail.

 

As long as your wife is planning to be in the PHL for at least 3 weeks to be on the safe side, it's best to only apply for dual citizenship at the Houston consulate, enter PHL with her US passport, and then apply for a new PHL passport at a DFA office in the Philippines.

 

You'll save money too- 950 PHP (~ USD $20) or 1200 PHP expedited (~ USD $25) compared to USD $60 + USD $7.95 priority flat rate if done at a PHL consulate/ embassy in the US.

As I said on another thread- if you both have children and you want your children to acquire PHL citizenship (in addition to their US citizenship), you will need to re-register both your marriage and birth of your children that took place outside PHL with the PHL consulate/ embassy in the US. COVID has made this process much easier- there used to be an in-person appointment required of these 2 processes but now mail in is allowed (at least for states under the Washington DC embassy or New York consulate jurisdiction) 

Thanks for the great input, we will just file dual then and get her a new Philippines passport once back in the Philippines. Our daughter is already a dual citizen so nothing to figure out there except maybe renewing old passports. Tentatively planning for July time frame for going back for probably a very long term stay/live full time. So even if there is quarantine upon entering we don't care, will deal with when the time comes.