Vaccine Exemption for Philosophical Reasons

[SunflowerSweet 1,321]

Okay there Socrates...

 

The statement/waiver process is supposed to be a thorough explanation of *your* personal beliefs/convictions regarding vaccines and why these beliefs require you to be exempt from the vaccine and overcome the denial. I’m not exactly sure how anyone here is suppose to help you with that, ESPECIALLY since you very plainly said you don’t wish to discuss stances on vaccines.

 

 If you’re so confident in your stance and your ability to get the outcome you desire... I’m not really sure what you’re asking for at this point. Impressively, some users have been able to provide some advice and guidance in response this thread, but you’ve been dismissive and honestly rude in response.

Edited February 16, 2021 by MorganandMichael

[NeonParticles 126]

Wow, this thread was a rollercoaster.  Thanks for the laughs.

[SalishSea 17,952]

1 hour ago, Jesserose24 said:

Hi, 

 

Thank you, I was not aware that using a desk top would make a difference to search, I will try that.

 

I'm 100 confident I meet the requirements to decline vaccines, I was more interested in what was written in personal testimonials. I understand the form is used but when dojng this research on a desk top was told bc my objection is Moral (not religious) it requires a sworn affidavit or testimonial from myself as well. I know I will not be declined.

 

Life would be soooo much easier if he could move here (it's just an easier process all around), however as a US soldier that's simply not an option until we retire.

 

Thank you. 

Jesse

 

 

I think the issue here is that you don't believe you need a waiver, believing instead that you can just submit some written statement during the consular interview in Montreal (which, you should know, would be year(s) from now).  Immigration is a steep learning curve.  Good luck.

[GregandNatty 195]

14 hours ago, Jesserose24 said:

Hello all, if this is posted elsewhere, please just help me find it. I'm Canadian, at the beginning of my Visa journey. I have my childhood vaccine record and likely won't need any. However, since becoming an adult and in charge of my own medical decisions, I am philosophically opposed to vaccines. There is a grey area around the TB shot (not required in my age group, I'm 36). But depending on when my medical is the flu shot could also be required. Not to mention when they'll add a C-ov-id vaccine to the list. I've done my research, according to the immigration website I can in fact decline on philosophical grounds. I simply have to write a testimony as such. I'm having a very hard time finding any one who has chose to go down this path of exemption on philosophical grounds. 

 

I'm not looking to debate vaccines in any way. I'm Pro-Choice. Just looking for any one who's written such a declaration and what they put in that letter.

 

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

 

Jesse

 

 

Not taking required vaccines is certainly your own decision.  It's also the decision of countries you want to travel to, to not to let you in if you don't have the required vaccines. 

[cbro20 53]

IMO VisaJourney has a problem that goes both ways. OPs get unnecessarily offended when receiving direct advice they don’t like to hear, but there’s no doubt that the “veterans” of this forum undertake a default tone of condescension when dealing with OPs who lack knowledge. The latter is a bigger issue as the longtime users of this site are mostly the ones who have been through the immigration process and who should know better. For example, a “veteran” presented it as a fact that we were going to miss my wife’s AOS and that my wife’s AOS was going to be denied after we hadn’t received our interview notice in 2 weeks after the status tracker update. 

[luminati 0]

14 hours ago, Jesserose24 said:

Hello all, if this is posted elsewhere, please just help me find it. I'm Canadian, at the beginning of my Visa journey. I have my childhood vaccine record and likely won't need any. However, since becoming an adult and in charge of my own medical decisions, I am philosophically opposed to vaccines. There is a grey area around the TB shot (not required in my age group, I'm 36). But depending on when my medical is the flu shot could also be required. Not to mention when they'll add a C-ov-id vaccine to the list. I've done my research, according to the immigration website I can in fact decline on philosophical grounds. I simply have to write a testimony as such. I'm having a very hard time finding any one who has chose to go down this path of exemption on philosophical grounds. 

 

I'm not looking to debate vaccines in any way. I'm Pro-Choice. Just looking for any one who's written such a declaration and what they put in that letter.

 

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

 

Jesse

 

You have the choice and so do they on declining your application.... Good luck with that..

[Adventine 3,201]

I wonder what kind of philosophical reasons someone would have to oppose vaccines so strongly. Reasons that apparently are worth adding much more time, expense and difficulty to an already long and expensive process.

 

On second thought, I didn't come to this forum to have anti- or pro-vax conversations. So... never mind.

 

If anti-vax is the way OP wants to go, and they feel so strongly about it, then nobody can stop them.

Edited February 16, 2021 by Adventine

[Boiler 45,715]

3 minutes ago, Adventine said:

I wonder what kind of philosophical reasons someone would have to oppose vaccines so strongly. Reasons that apparently are worth it adding much more time, expense and difficulty to an already long and expensive process.

 

On second thought, I didn't come to this forum to have anti- or pro-vax conversations.

 

If anti-vax is the way OP wants to go, and they feel so strongly about it, then nobody can stop them.

My understanding and this does not come up very often is that they are not judging you philosophical reasons, you just need to state them. The OP seems to have very strongly help views so it is a more committing them to paper.

 

Now if you have some religious/ group belief then it may well be a lot easier to demonstrate? There would be a body of work to print.

 

Strikes me like most waivers you need to go through the motions, tick the boxes and move on.

[SalishSea 17,952]

OP, in my insomnia-riddled spare time, I sometimes read decisions from the administrative appeals office on USCIS.gov.

 

Here is one example that pertains to the waiver you seek:

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/err/H1 - Waiver of Inadmissibility - Medical - 212 (g)/Decisions_Issued_in_2020/JUL202020_01H1212.pdf

[Ban Hammer 13,417]

multiple posts removed for bickering.

this thread is now closed as the op has enough advice to move forward.

do not restart this thread.

do not reference this thread in other threads (import drama).

 

charles

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