Vaccine Exemption for Philosophical Reasons

[Jesserose24 62]

Hello all, if this is posted elsewhere, please just help me find it. I'm Canadian, at the beginning of my Visa journey. I have my childhood vaccine record and likely won't need any. However, since becoming an adult and in charge of my own medical decisions, I am philosophically opposed to vaccines. There is a grey area around the TB shot (not required in my age group, I'm 36). But depending on when my medical is the flu shot could also be required. Not to mention when they'll add a C-ov-id vaccine to the list. I've done my research, according to the immigration website I can in fact decline on philosophical grounds. I simply have to write a testimony as such. I'm having a very hard time finding any one who has chose to go down this path of exemption on philosophical grounds. 

 

I'm not looking to debate vaccines in any way. I'm Pro-Choice. Just looking for any one who's written such a declaration and what they put in that letter.

 

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

 

Jesse

 

[Boiler 45,434]

Well certainly possible  to file a waiver, but you are a long way off filing a I 601 if you have just started the process.

 

Basically you will go through the process be refused a visa for being non compliant and be given the opportunity of filing a waiver, not a letter think package.

 

Covid is not currently included but could be by then, who knows?

 

 

[Jesserose24 62]

52 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Well certainly possible  to file a waiver, but you are a long way off filing a I 601 if you have just started the process.

 

Basically you will go through the process be refused a visa for being non compliant and be given the opportunity of filing a waiver, not a letter think package.

 

Covid is not currently included but could be by then, who knows?

 

 

This is absolutely incorrect. It states right on the Immigration website the declaration is presented during the interview. If you haven't actually had experience, please don't waste my time.

[Boiler 45,434]

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/waivers-health-based-inadmissibility-us-green-card-applicants.html

 

Applying for a Waiver of the Vaccination Requirement

If you object, on the basis or religious or moral reasons, to receiving any and all vaccinations, you may apply for a waiver of the vaccination requirements. (You cannot pick and choose, objecting to only one or a few vaccinations.)

Your immigration medical examination will include a review of your vaccination record. For any of the possible required vaccinations, the physician would ordinarily either give you a vaccination or decide that the vaccination is not medically appropriate. Inform your examining physician if you are requesting a waiver based on your religious or moral beliefs. If you don’t, the doctor might try and give you whichever vaccinations he or she deems medically appropriate. (Note that the doctor does not make the final decision on the waiver; and if the immigration authorities deny your request, they may require you to either get those vaccinations done later, or give up your application for a green card.)

To apply for the vaccinations waiver, you will need to submit Form I-601 along with your green card application, and include evidence that you are against vaccinations in any form, that your objection is based on religious beliefs or moral convictions, and that your religious or moral beliefs are sincere.

Evidence may include letters of support from religious leaders of your faith and others in the community who share your beliefs, and references to religious scripts and doctrines, articles, and academic studies describing your religious or moral convictions.

[Jesserose24 62]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/waivers-health-based-inadmissibility-us-green-card-applicants.html

 

Applying for a Waiver of the Vaccination Requirement

If you object, on the basis or religious or moral reasons, to receiving any and all vaccinations, you may apply for a waiver of the vaccination requirements. (You cannot pick and choose, objecting to only one or a few vaccinations.)

Your immigration medical examination will include a review of your vaccination record. For any of the possible required vaccinations, the physician would ordinarily either give you a vaccination or decide that the vaccination is not medically appropriate. Inform your examining physician if you are requesting a waiver based on your religious or moral beliefs. If you don’t, the doctor might try and give you whichever vaccinations he or she deems medically appropriate. (Note that the doctor does not make the final decision on the waiver; and if the immigration authorities deny your request, they may require you to either get those vaccinations done later, or give up your application for a green card.)

To apply for the vaccinations waiver, you will need to submit Form I-601 along with your green card application, and include evidence that you are against vaccinations in any form, that your objection is based on religious beliefs or moral convictions, and that your religious or moral beliefs are sincere.

Evidence may include letters of support from religious leaders of your faith and others in the community who share your beliefs, and references to religious scripts and doctrines, articles, and academic studies describing your religious or moral convictions.

Yes, I've read this passage repeatedly. In case my question was not clear, I'm looking to understand exactly what words others have used in similar situations. I'll mildly ask you to leave me, and this thread alone, unless you've actually had experience with this. I'm looking to speak with others who have.

[Boiler 45,434]

14 minutes ago, Jesserose24 said:

This is absolutely incorrect. It states right on the Immigration website the declaration is presented during the interview. If you haven't actually had experience, please don't waste my time.

So how was my reply absolutely incorrect? I was pretty sure my memory was not faulty but did a quick google to check.

 

I have seen very few on here and the last one was a very long time ago. From memory they decided they did not want to go through the extra delay. But I certainly do not see everything.

 

I have asked one of our friendly Mods to move your post to the Waiver forum where it is more likely to be seen by others in a similar situation.

[Jesserose24 62]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So how was my reply absolutely incorrect? I was pretty sure my memory was not faulty but did a quick google to check.

 

I have seen very few on here and the last one was a very long time ago. From memory they decided they did not want to go through the extra delay. But I certainly do not see everything.

 

I have asked one of our friendly Mods to move your post to the Waiver forum where it is more likely to be seen by others in a similar situation.

While impossible to find on the mobile site, on my laptop I have up directions which indicate I can bring a declaration to the interview, it's listed under the recommended vaccines. Again, desperately looking to speak to someone who has actually done this, not someone who can read everything I have already read.

Edited February 16, 2021 by Jesserose24

[TBoneTX 45,223]

Thread is moved from the K-3 Process forum to the Waivers forum.

 

Jesserose24, it violates the site's Terms of Service to tell someone not to post.  It's suggested that you review the TOS (to which you agreed to adhere when you registered) and not violate a provision again.  Furthermore, avoid insulting highly experienced members.  This is your only notification before administrative action against your account.

 

VJ Moderation

[Jesserose24 62]

5 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Thread is moved from the K-3 Process forum to the Waivers forum.

 

Jesserose24, it violates the site's Terms of Service to tell someone not to post.  It's suggested that you review the TOS (to which you agreed to adhere when you registered) and not violate a provision again.  Furthermore, avoid insulting highly experienced members.  This is your only notification before administrative action against your account.

 

VJ Moderation

You're welcome to delete my account. I was direct and reaffirmed my request only to speak to someone who has actually been through this exact process. I did not insult anyone.  I asked them not to comment if they didn't actually meet the requirements of my inquiry. There was no insult whatsoever. Happy to not be a member if this is the type of unsolicited advice one can expect. 

[TBoneTX 45,223]

17 minutes ago, Jesserose24 said:

I asked them not to comment

This is the violation.

[Jesserose24 62]

I asked, I didn't tell. There's a difference. Much like there's a difference in respecting someone's original ask and ignoring it.

 

As I said, feel free to delete my account. I thought it was a place I could go to for specific questions, connecting with people in the exact same situation as myself.. not general information the same as I can read myself doing my own Google research.

[Diane and Chris 651]

1 hour ago, Jesserose24 said:

I asked, I didn't tell. There's a difference. Much like there's a difference in respecting someone's original ask and ignoring it.

 

As I said, feel free to delete my account. I thought it was a place I could go to for specific questions, connecting with people in the exact same situation as myself.. not general information the same as I can read myself doing my own Google research.

Not getting the answer you want is not a good way to ask for advice, especially from an experienced member. Your visa journey has just begun. It would be wise if you were to slow down and listen to what others say that may help you. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices. Best of luck in your journey. 

[Downloader 199]

You have quite an attitude for someone that is coming to a public forum looking for free information which by the way is being served by one of our most experienced and respected members.

I hope that you cannot stand me either so you let your tongue free again....maybe I’ll get lucky. 
 

Edited February 16, 2021 by Downloader

[Jesserose24 62]

I'm not getting in to a back and forth with anyone, attitude cannot be written into text, only perceived by the reader. I only want to connect with someone who has actually been through this aspect of the process. 

 

So far this experience leaves me completely indifferent to bring deleted. Doesn't bother me a bit. This question is literally the only reason I joined this community at all. I'm Canadian, he's a US soldier, outside of this aspect, the process is seemless and straightforward. If I cannot ask and receive only feedback from those I've inquired to hear from, this platform ceases to be of value to me.

 

[Jesserose24 62]

42 minutes ago, Diane and Chris said:

Not getting the answer you want is not a good way to ask for advice, especially from an experienced member. Your visa journey has just begun. It would be wise if you were to slow down and listen to what others say that may help you. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices. Best of luck in your journey. 

I'm not sure what sacrifices your referring to. As I said, I will not get in to a back and forth with anyone about vaccines. And I was quite clear that I wanted to connect with someone who's been theough the moral or religious exemption. I can Google much information myself and already have. I didn't come here to get any other information than this. I was specific in my request. It's not that I 'didnt get an answer I wanted', I didn't get an answer. My question was to connect with someone who HAD denied additional vaccines. That person didnt mean reply.