Biden Administration and more gun control, where will it go?

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8 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

that's because the gun lobby (and gun owners) are well aware of what happens when there is "reforms" "compromise" "common sense gun control" and other infringements upon their rights as citizens.

Is that why the NRA is fundraising with Notice of Gun Confiscation on the envelope? 

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14 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

These killings didn't come from an illegal gun, unless there is new info

 

 

I don't think all people are the problem, even the shooters in these cases were not raised to kill, what triggers these events?

 

How you can tell these two young men, who purchased very close to the time of attack from ever other young man who chooses to purchase a gun? If we could go back in time we would not let the purchase go through, but do we know what they would look like if they walked into a gun shop?

 

You can say they,or their families,  should have taken responsibility for the situation but that doesn't bring back the dead.

 

My issue the the gun lobby is that there is zero compromise on the topic of reforming the background check, magazine sizes and a host of other issues. Isn't there room to at least let the local law enforcement review the application? Can't the default be a 7 day wait unless there is a personal protection issue?

I already live in a state that never lifted the 1994 assault weapons ban. We must pass a background check. We have reduced capacity magazines. There has been lots of one way compromises in Massachusetts. And they always want more. 

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Just now, CanAm1980 said:

with Notice of Gun Confiscation on the envelope?

I seem to recall Beto saying "Hell, yes!  We are going to confiscate your AR-15s....".....

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/sep/13/beto-orourke-on-gun-control-hell-yes-were-going-to-take-your-ar-15-video

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6 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

That is an infringement on my rights...an extra burden placed on a law abiding citizen......

Fair enough, how do I weigh your "rights" to have your weapon on the same day of purchase against increasing the chance that the wrong person will have a gun?. I may not know that you are law abiding and have no malicious intent, does the clerk just go on your say so?

Edited March 24, 2021 by CanAm1980

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5 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Fair enough, how do I weigh your "rights" to have your weapon on the same day of purchase against increasing the chance that the wrong person will have a gun?. I may not know that you are law abiding and have no malicious intent, does the clerk just go on your say so?

Then perhaps having a waiting period for buying alcohol would be a good idea. I would have no idea if you were responsible with alcohol or not. How would we know if you were to drink and then drive? The possibilities are endless. 

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2 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Then perhaps having a waiting period for buying alcohol would be a good idea. I would have no idea if you were responsible with alcohol or not. How would we know if you were to drink and then drive? The possibilities are endless. 

or a knife...or fertilizer.....

Edited March 24, 2021 by Lucky Cat

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52 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

That is an infringement on my rights...an extra burden placed on a law abiding citizen......sounds like it is making assumptions about my state of mind.

 

   An extra burden of a 1 week delay doesn't actually constitute infringement (by definition). 

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14 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   An extra burden of a 1 week delay doesn't actually constitute infringement (by definition). 

I think it does.

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43 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

I think it does.

 

  If HR1446 passes, it would give 10 days to complete the background check. Most checks wouldn't take that long, and it's not actually a mandatory waiting period, but it probably would eventually address the constitutionality of a waiting period one way or the other. 

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2 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Then perhaps having a waiting period for buying alcohol would be a good idea. I would have no idea if you were responsible with alcohol or not. How would we know if you were to drink and then drive? The possibilities are endless. 

How about voting, should voters in Georgia be able to register on the same day as the election?

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Once again Ban a weapon that accounts for less than 1% of gun deaths in the US. 

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3 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

I already live in a state that never lifted the 1994 assault weapons ban. We must pass a background check. We have reduced capacity magazines. There has been lots of one way compromises in Massachusetts. And they always want more. 

 

   You also have the lowest rate of firearms related deaths in the country.

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1 hour ago, CanAm1980 said:

How about voting, should voters in Georgia be able to register on the same day as the election?

 

 No need to register, and we should be able to vote by text or email up until 23:59 on election day. Anything else is an infringement on our constitutional rights.

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1 hour ago, CanAm1980 said:

How about voting, should voters in Georgia be able to register on the same day as the election?

As I said, the possibilities are endless.