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21 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Last time, it was apparently Americanthinker.com, not amgreatness.com.

For the record, RealClearPolitics regularly links articles from both of the above, so not malware.

 

Getting back to topic, it's seemed clear for a while that Romney should simply switch parties and make things official.

 

4 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

He's still closer to the other party than the one he's in.

I can't reply to this, it's giving my computer a virus.

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22 minutes ago, moxy said:

Could be their advertisers. A lot of times these blogs just sign up for an advertising service without knowing who they're getting ads from.

I thought that, since I have had the problem with a number of political sites (not just conservative ones I will point out). I assume that one of the only reasons the crazy ads on VJ that I see aren't blocked is because VJ probably has a bigger footprint on the internet than these blogs, and is marked as "safe." But I have had VJ be blocked for me on a couple occasions as potentially malicious.

 

Anyway, if a majority of Utahns approve of his work, who cares?

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2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I thought that, since I have had the problem with a number of political sites (not just conservative ones I will point out). I assume that one of the only reasons the crazy ads on VJ that I see aren't blocked is because VJ probably has a bigger footprint on the internet than these blogs, and is marked as "safe." But I have had VJ be blocked for me on a couple occasions as potentially malicious.

 

Anyway, if a majority of Utahns approve of his work, who cares?

 

   Apparently some of the people who were dismissive of approval ratings for the last 4 years now think they are of great importance.

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Posted
1 minute ago, laylalex said:

I thought that, since I have had the problem with a number of political sites (not just conservative ones I will point out). I assume that one of the only reasons the crazy ads on VJ that I see aren't blocked is because VJ probably has a bigger footprint on the internet than these blogs, and is marked as "safe." But I have had VJ be blocked for me on a couple occasions as potentially malicious.

 

Anyway, if a majority of Utahns approve of his work, who cares?

It's pretty common for these fly-by-night blogs (of all political persuasions) to just be in it for the ad clicks. I can't say for sure, but my guess is that the further either side of center a political site gets, the less choosy they are about whose ads show up on their sites. Pretty standard fare: write the most extreme garbage that has only a toe in the facts, pull in the people who believe such things, and they'll also probably click on ads that feed into other things they want to believe.

 

And I agree about Romney. If he's good for Utah, they'll be happy with him. I don't like a lot of Romney's politics, but he's got a decent reputation of working with his opposition. I'll take that any day of the week over the dreck that's currently infesting the Republican party.

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Apparently some of the people who were dismissive of approval ratings for the last 4 years now think they are of great importance.

The key is relevance, a minor detail which I notice some of the people are incredibly afraid to discuss in these amusing generalizations. People are free to swim at the surface but please don't swipe at those of us who actually bring depth.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Apparently some of the people who were dismissive of approval ratings for the last 4 years now think they are of great importance.

Unless it was Rasmussen. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, moxy said:

It's pretty common for these fly-by-night blogs (of all political persuasions) to just be in it for the ad clicks. I can't say for sure, but my guess is that the further either side of center a political site gets, the less choosy they are about whose ads show up on their sites. Pretty standard fare: write the most extreme garbage that has only a toe in the facts, pull in the people who believe such things, and they'll also probably click on ads that feed into other things they want to believe.

 

And I agree about Romney. If he's good for Utah, they'll be happy with him. I don't like a lot of Romney's politics, but he's got a decent reputation of working with his opposition. I'll take that any day of the week over the dreck that's currently infesting the Republican party.

 

     He'll be OK. Even if he loses a bid for reelection in 4 years, he can just yell fraud really loud and hire a couple of shady lawyers, then tell everyone he won.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

bid for reelection in 4 years

He's already rather elderly, though, correct?

Of course, that hasn't stopped very many of 'em.

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06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

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12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

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05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

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And decades more ensconced in the Establishment Swamp.  He'll probably run again.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted
5 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

I'm not sure that is a bad thing. I mean it was a great one off slogan for a guy who had no experience, but then we all got the chance to actually see what no experience gets you.

Everyone wants term limits, but nobody is ever actually willing to term limit their own politicians at the polls. Career politicians must be doing something right.

Posted
1 minute ago, moxy said:

Everyone wants term limits, but nobody is ever actually willing to term limit their own politicians at the polls. Career politicians must be doing something right.

I think it's a balancing act. On the one hand, we don't want to keep rewarding mediocre politicians with more terms, simply because we're used to them. On the other hand, institutional knowledge has real value, provided that the elected official actually uses it wisely. There's not a one size fits all solution here. John Lewis was a titan, an American hero who deserved to be elected and re-elected time and again. Steve King? Not so much.

Posted
2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I think it's a balancing act. On the one hand, we don't want to keep rewarding mediocre politicians with more terms, simply because we're used to them. On the other hand, institutional knowledge has real value, provided that the elected official actually uses it wisely. There's not a one size fits all solution here. John Lewis was a titan, an American hero who deserved to be elected and re-elected time and again. Steve King? Not so much.

 

  I see people not use doctors or mechanics or plumbers who have bad ratings. I never see anybody saying I need a plumber or mechanic or orthopedic surgeon with no experience because they'll do the job better. I'm not sure why people think politics would work any differently. 

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