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I’m just wondering if anyone has any information. Is going through customs in Ukraine as difficult as it is in the US? I’m worried that if I say I’m visiting my fiancé, they’ll automatically think I’m going to overstay or something. Of course, I will be completely honest about my plans. I’ve heard Americans can stay for up to 90 days...I’ll be there for 60. But I just want to know if this might be a problem. We’ve faced so many obstacles trying to see each other, and the last thing I want is to be turned around at the airport haha. 

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Here's from info from Ukrainian Airlines, who I suspect would be a good source:

 

https://www.flyuia.com/us/en/information/travel-recommendations#question2

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7 minutes ago, millefleur said:

Here's from info from Ukrainian Airlines, who I suspect would be a good source:

 

https://www.flyuia.com/us/en/information/travel-recommendations#question2

Thank you for your response. 
 

I am aware of the regulations due to covid, and that I’ll need covid health insurance among other things. I am just asking if there will be a problem when I say I’m going to be meeting a guy and will stay for 60 days. Are they as strict as USA border agents with such things? 

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16 minutes ago, frodolives said:

Thank you for your response. 
 

I am aware of the regulations due to covid, and that I’ll need covid health insurance among other things. I am just asking if there will be a problem when I say I’m going to be meeting a guy and will stay for 60 days. Are they as strict as USA border agents with such things? 

Not familiar with Ukraine, so I'll tag some of the active members who might be: @Lena and Igor @gregcrs2 @Ksenia_O @Myroslava

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21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

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07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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6 hours ago, frodolives said:

I’m just wondering if anyone has any information. Is going through customs in Ukraine as difficult as it is in the US? I’m worried that if I say I’m visiting my fiancé, they’ll automatically think I’m going to overstay or something. Of course, I will be completely honest about my plans. I’ve heard Americans can stay for up to 90 days...I’ll be there for 60. But I just want to know if this might be a problem. We’ve faced so many obstacles trying to see each other, and the last thing I want is to be turned around at the airport haha. 

They are not strict like in the US at all when it comes to western foreigners.  If asked what is the reason for your visit, just say "tourism".  Best not to volunteer any information. A couple of side notes, winter is not the time of year to be visiting Ukraine.  May/June would be the best time of year.  Also, if I understand correctly, your fiancé is Russian and of military age.  He is likely going to have a difficult time if even possible to get into Ukraine.      

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Thanks, it’s my wife I am talking about.  Mew US Citizen, we plan on retiring in Ukraine sometime in 3022, hopefully when it is safer. Question remains the same...what passport should she use leaving the US, transiting to Amsterdam then entering Kyiv?

September 7, 2009 - met Lena online
October 20, 2010 - First Meeting in Kharkov
Oct 20, 2010 - Engaged
December 3, 2010 - Filed I-129F
December 16, 2010 - NOA-1 notification
December 30, 2010 - Second Visit to Kharkov
February 8, 2011 - Touched
April 18, 2011 - NOA-2 notification
April 18, 2011 - Petition at NVC
April 25, 2011 - Medical Exam
April 26, 2011 - Received at Embassy
April 27, 28, 29, 2011 - Repeat medical (passed medical)
May 5, 2011 - Packet #4 received by mail in Ukraine
June 17, 2011 - Interview scheduled 9:00 AM
June 17, 2011 - Visa approved
June 18, 2011 - Interview Review posted
July 11, 2011 - POE - Detroit
July 17, 2011 - Applied for Marriage License
July 17, 2011 - Applied for SSN
August 17, 2011 - Married in Russian Orthodox Church - Detroit
November 11, 2011 - Submitted AOS/EAD/AP
January 3, 2012 - NOA 1
February 7, 2012 - Still no Biometrics appointment
February 10, 2012 - Service Request - no Biometrics appointment to date
February 29, 2012 - Infopass appointment Detroit (no Biometrics appointment letter - over 40 days)
March 9, 2012 - Biometrics
March 12, 2012 - EAD card production email received
March 23, 2012 - EAD received
March 24, 2012 - AOS interview appointment for April 24, 2012 (Detroit)
April 24, 2012 - AOS approved!
May 2, 2012 - 2 year provisional Green Card received
June 2, 2012 - First job - Russian Kindergarden in Oak Park, Michigan

Feb 5, 2014 - I-751 sent

Sept 19, 2014 - RFE

Nov 3, 2014 - Case moved to Detroit Field Office

Dec 29, 2014 - ROC Interview - Detroit Field Office

Feb 16, 2015 - I-751 approved after 2nd interview

Feb 18, 2015 - I 551 stamp in passport

Mar 5, 2015 - 10 year Permanent Resident Status

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Yes, I agree, passport control is not very strict here in Ukraine. But you should make some preparations. All travelers should have insurance that covers covid-19 and you need to do testing upon arrival ( there is a laboratory at Boryspil airport)

 

https://visitukraine.today/ Our government created this website for tourists. Very helpful. You can also buy your insurance here. 

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6 hours ago, Myroslava said:

Yes, I agree, passport control is not very strict here in Ukraine. But you should make some preparations. All travelers should have insurance that covers covid-19 and you need to do testing upon arrival ( there is a laboratory at Boryspil airport)

 

https://visitukraine.today/ Our government created this website for tourists. Very helpful. You can also buy your insurance here. 

Thank you for your response. I feel relieved lol. Yes, I will be buying insurance. I’ve visited the website and it’s extremely helpful. I’ll also be departing from jfk airport where I can get a PCR test result within 2-3 hours that I can present at the border to avoid isolation. I know there are a few extra steps and documents I will need to have with me, but I actually feel like Ukraine is more tourist friendly with their regulations than some of the other countries have been. Thanks everyone for your answers! 

13 hours ago, gregcrs2 said:

They are not strict like in the US at all when it comes to western foreigners.  If asked what is the reason for your visit, just say "tourism".  Best not to volunteer any information. A couple of side notes, winter is not the time of year to be visiting Ukraine.  May/June would be the best time of year.  Also, if I understand correctly, your fiancé is Russian and of military age.  He is likely going to have a difficult time if even possible to get into Ukraine.      

Thank you for responding! I’ll keep all this in mind, nothing is set in stone yet. 

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13 hours ago, Lena and Igor said:

Thanks, it’s my wife I am talking about.  Mew US Citizen, we plan on retiring in Ukraine sometime in 3022

Good luck on that 🤣

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NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

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NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
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Sorry, meant 2022.  Haha. 

September 7, 2009 - met Lena online
October 20, 2010 - First Meeting in Kharkov
Oct 20, 2010 - Engaged
December 3, 2010 - Filed I-129F
December 16, 2010 - NOA-1 notification
December 30, 2010 - Second Visit to Kharkov
February 8, 2011 - Touched
April 18, 2011 - NOA-2 notification
April 18, 2011 - Petition at NVC
April 25, 2011 - Medical Exam
April 26, 2011 - Received at Embassy
April 27, 28, 29, 2011 - Repeat medical (passed medical)
May 5, 2011 - Packet #4 received by mail in Ukraine
June 17, 2011 - Interview scheduled 9:00 AM
June 17, 2011 - Visa approved
June 18, 2011 - Interview Review posted
July 11, 2011 - POE - Detroit
July 17, 2011 - Applied for Marriage License
July 17, 2011 - Applied for SSN
August 17, 2011 - Married in Russian Orthodox Church - Detroit
November 11, 2011 - Submitted AOS/EAD/AP
January 3, 2012 - NOA 1
February 7, 2012 - Still no Biometrics appointment
February 10, 2012 - Service Request - no Biometrics appointment to date
February 29, 2012 - Infopass appointment Detroit (no Biometrics appointment letter - over 40 days)
March 9, 2012 - Biometrics
March 12, 2012 - EAD card production email received
March 23, 2012 - EAD received
March 24, 2012 - AOS interview appointment for April 24, 2012 (Detroit)
April 24, 2012 - AOS approved!
May 2, 2012 - 2 year provisional Green Card received
June 2, 2012 - First job - Russian Kindergarden in Oak Park, Michigan

Feb 5, 2014 - I-751 sent

Sept 19, 2014 - RFE

Nov 3, 2014 - Case moved to Detroit Field Office

Dec 29, 2014 - ROC Interview - Detroit Field Office

Feb 16, 2015 - I-751 approved after 2nd interview

Feb 18, 2015 - I 551 stamp in passport

Mar 5, 2015 - 10 year Permanent Resident Status

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In winter 2018 I spent 2 months with my fiance.  At border control I said I was entering as a tourist/visiting.  I was stopped when leaving baggage claim with "nothing to declare" because of my large suitcase (and for being an obvious westerner).

 

The customs officer asked how long I was planning on being in Ukraine - I said two months.  He mentioned that it must be nice to take such a long time off from work, but he didn't otherwise question my presence in Ukraine. They let me continue on after scanning my suitcase in the xray machine.

 

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You will be faced with people in military garb who are only there to make sure you download the Dii Vdoma app.  I had tech problems as I was not getting the code back to confirm my account in that app.  After some discussion I was led to Customs who stamped my passport and then I got the test and set something up with someone at one of the tables there to get updates.  I think it was < 24 hours when I was informed my test was negative so Dii Vdoma was no longer necessary.

 

Ukraine, and Ukrainians, like people from the USA.  I have found them to be very helpful and friendly.

 

Your passport gets you 90 days there every 180 so stays of 90 days or less are perfectly fine.  No problems whatsoever.  They are happy to have you.

 

Yes, you need special health insurance and can buy online at visitukraine.today.  VERY affordable and the payment flow, though not slick like PayPal, works.  Best to have a gmail address (they recommend it) because you will get a code to confirm payment via email and it doesn't seem to work consistently for other popular domains like Yahoo.

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Thank you!  Great insight.  When COVID is less viral, my wife and I will be moving to Kharkiv.  Perhaps in a yr or two. 

September 7, 2009 - met Lena online
October 20, 2010 - First Meeting in Kharkov
Oct 20, 2010 - Engaged
December 3, 2010 - Filed I-129F
December 16, 2010 - NOA-1 notification
December 30, 2010 - Second Visit to Kharkov
February 8, 2011 - Touched
April 18, 2011 - NOA-2 notification
April 18, 2011 - Petition at NVC
April 25, 2011 - Medical Exam
April 26, 2011 - Received at Embassy
April 27, 28, 29, 2011 - Repeat medical (passed medical)
May 5, 2011 - Packet #4 received by mail in Ukraine
June 17, 2011 - Interview scheduled 9:00 AM
June 17, 2011 - Visa approved
June 18, 2011 - Interview Review posted
July 11, 2011 - POE - Detroit
July 17, 2011 - Applied for Marriage License
July 17, 2011 - Applied for SSN
August 17, 2011 - Married in Russian Orthodox Church - Detroit
November 11, 2011 - Submitted AOS/EAD/AP
January 3, 2012 - NOA 1
February 7, 2012 - Still no Biometrics appointment
February 10, 2012 - Service Request - no Biometrics appointment to date
February 29, 2012 - Infopass appointment Detroit (no Biometrics appointment letter - over 40 days)
March 9, 2012 - Biometrics
March 12, 2012 - EAD card production email received
March 23, 2012 - EAD received
March 24, 2012 - AOS interview appointment for April 24, 2012 (Detroit)
April 24, 2012 - AOS approved!
May 2, 2012 - 2 year provisional Green Card received
June 2, 2012 - First job - Russian Kindergarden in Oak Park, Michigan

Feb 5, 2014 - I-751 sent

Sept 19, 2014 - RFE

Nov 3, 2014 - Case moved to Detroit Field Office

Dec 29, 2014 - ROC Interview - Detroit Field Office

Feb 16, 2015 - I-751 approved after 2nd interview

Feb 18, 2015 - I 551 stamp in passport

Mar 5, 2015 - 10 year Permanent Resident Status

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On 2/17/2021 at 2:59 PM, TastyCake said:

You will be faced with people in military garb who are only there to make sure you download the Dii Vdoma app.  I had tech problems as I was not getting the code back to confirm my account in that app.  After some discussion I was led to Customs who stamped my passport and then I got the test and set something up with someone at one of the tables there to get updates.  I think it was < 24 hours when I was informed my test was negative so Dii Vdoma was no longer necessary.

 

Ukraine, and Ukrainians, like people from the USA.  I have found them to be very helpful and friendly.

 

Your passport gets you 90 days there every 180 so stays of 90 days or less are perfectly fine.  No problems whatsoever.  They are happy to have you.

 

Yes, you need special health insurance and can buy online at visitukraine.today.  VERY affordable and the payment flow, though not slick like PayPal, works.  Best to have a gmail address (they recommend it) because you will get a code to confirm payment via email and it doesn't seem to work consistently for other popular domains like Yahoo.

Thank you for your response! I found the contact information for WhatsApp on visitukrainetoday...and they told me that if I come with a negative PCR test that was taken 48 hours before entering the country, then I won’t need to download the app or go into isolation. So that’s a big relief! I can have the test taken at JFK before departure. It takes 2-3 hours to get results, according to what I’ve read. Big relief. 

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