Laid-off Keystone XL worker says decision to cancel pipeline ‘is going to hurt a lot of people’

[Dashinka 24,735]

8 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Fourteen states are going to sue the Asterisk Administration regarding this cancellation.  Links available everywhere.

And so they should.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

On 1/25/2021 at 4:05 PM, Ban Hammer said:

he also said he wasn't going to ban fracking.  so when he talks out of both sides of his mouth, he is going to get someone to hear what they want to hear.....

So he’s a politician.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

Is it a coincidence  that  Warren Buffet owns 100% of the railroad that hauls the majority of the crude oil 

[Dashinka 24,735]

12 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Is it a coincidence  that  Warren Buffet owns 100% of the railroad that hauls the majority of the crude oil 

Doesn't Mr. Buffet generally support the Democrats and their politicians.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

Just now, Dashinka said:

Doesn't Mr. Buffet generally support the Democrats and their politicians.

Very much so

[moxy 1,051]

I'll believe the far right is concerned about lost jobs when they start supporting workers over billionaires.

[Dashinka 24,735]

14 minutes ago, moxy said:

I'll believe the far right is concerned about lost jobs when they start supporting workers over billionaires.

Yeah, no one cares about the jobs lost by the acts of government except the Democrats and the Far Left.  Btw, I have a bridge available for sale.

[moxy 1,051]

Yeah. When the guy with an (R) next to his name enacts policy that cuts jobs, those people need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. When it's the guy with the (D) next to his name, it's job killing and unfair to workers. So like I said, when the far right shows the same concern for workers that they show for billionaires, then I'll start believing anything they have to say.

Edited February 15, 2021 by moxy

[Dashinka 24,735]

5 minutes ago, moxy said:

Yeah. When the guy with an (R) next to his name enacts policy that cuts jobs, those people need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. When it's the guy with the (D) next to his name, it's job killing and unfair to workers. So like I said, when the far right shows the same concern for workers that they show for billionaires, then I'll start believing anything they have to say.

I believe the billionaire class were huge supporters of Biden in the last election.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

13 minutes ago, moxy said:

Yeah. When the guy with an (R) next to his name enacts policy that cuts jobs, those people need to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. When it's the guy with the (D) next to his name, it's job killing and unfair to workers. So like I said, when the far right shows the same concern for workers that they show for billionaires, then I'll start believing anything they have to say.

what policy are you speaking of exactly ?

[moxy 1,051]

41 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

what policy are you speaking of exactly ?

I'm not speaking specifically about any policy, although if you want an example you need look no further than the supply side economic policies of the Republican party for the last fifty plus years. Tax cuts for billionaires, opposition to a minimum wage to even keep up with the cost of living. As a specific and recent example, the far right touted Trump's tax plan as worker-friendly. And sure enough, while it basically gave the farm away to the rich, it also reduced taxes on the working class. Oh, except individual tax cuts--the tax cuts that affect the working class the most--expire after 2025. The tax cuts for the rich don't expire. It allowed the Republicans to cynically claim to support the working class, when really it just amounted to a bait and switch. Awesome if you're Jeff Bezos. Not so much if you work in one of his warehouses.

 

In general, when (R) policies negatively affect workers, the far right is unconcerned. When (D) policy affects workers, the far right becomes very concerned. The far right doesn't care a whit for the working person, except when it's convenient to use them as either a stooge or a cudgel.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

2 minutes ago, moxy said:

I'm not speaking specifically about any policy, although if you want an example you need look no further than the supply side economic policies of the Republican party for the last fifty plus years. Tax cuts for billionaires, opposition to a minimum wage to even keep up with the cost of living. As a specific and recent example, the far right touted Trump's tax plan as worker-friendly. And sure enough, while it basically gave the farm away to the rich, it also reduced taxes on the working class. Oh, except individual tax cuts--the tax cuts that affect the working class the most--expire after 2025. The tax cuts for the rich don't expire. It allowed the Republicans to cynically claim to support the working class, when really it just amounted to a bait and switch. Awesome if you're Jeff Bezos. Not so much if you work in one of his warehouses.

 

In general, when (R) policies negatively affect workers, the far right is unconcerned. When (D) policy affects workers, the far right becomes very concerned. The far right doesn't care a whit for the working person, except when it's convenient to use them as either a stooge or a cudgel.

so in other words, you got nothing !

[moxy 1,051]

Haha yeah. Two paragraphs of nothing.

[Dashinka 24,735]

12 minutes ago, moxy said:

I'm not speaking specifically about any policy, although if you want an example you need look no further than the supply side economic policies of the Republican party for the last fifty plus years. Tax cuts for billionaires, opposition to a minimum wage to even keep up with the cost of living. As a specific and recent example, the far right touted Trump's tax plan as worker-friendly. And sure enough, while it basically gave the farm away to the rich, it also reduced taxes on the working class. Oh, except individual tax cuts--the tax cuts that affect the working class the most--expire after 2025. The tax cuts for the rich don't expire. It allowed the Republicans to cynically claim to support the working class, when really it just amounted to a bait and switch. Awesome if you're Jeff Bezos. Not so much if you work in one of his warehouses.

 

In general, when (R) policies negatively affect workers, the far right is unconcerned. When (D) policy affects workers, the far right becomes very concerned. The far right doesn't care a whit for the working person, except when it's convenient to use them as either a stooge or a cudgel.

Personally, I am still waiting for an example of the Dems/Far Left concerned about the workers?  I seem to remember John Kerry saying these folks specifically impacted by the Keystone job losses should just go build solar panels (I guess that means moving to China), and Old Joe made a quip about folks he was planning on putting out of work needing to learn how to code.

[moxy 1,051]

You're wondering about examples of the left's concern for workers, but every time the left voices concern for workers, the far right labels them as socialists or communists. Because somehow we've gotten to the point where corporate welfare is American as apple pie, but fairness to individuals is basically Stalin.

 

Fwiw I'm not impressed with Biden's record on workers rights. I don't know if Biden has made the argument that the pipeline workers should retrain, but it wouldn't surprise me. That argument is simplistic and is rarely ever backed by federal dollars and infrastructure to help in that transition. Not to mention you can't expect an oil worker in their fifties to just sit down and learn Python and go get a job with Google. I'm willing to call Dems out on their records, and I won't carry Biden's water. But once again, I'll take the far right seriously about concern for workers when they enact policies to show that concern.