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Under Reagan we had:

- The Savings & Loan Crisis

- THe Stock Market Crash

- raised the national debt from $700 billion dollars to $3 trillion dollars

- Iran-Contra Affair

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escalated the Cold War (before ending it)

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A mentally diminshed President

But for all that he was quite good at making things look ok. Like Thatcher. Always smiling even when life is $hit.

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Under Reagan we had:

- The Savings & Loan Crisis

- THe Stock Market Crash

- raised the national debt from $700 billion dollars to $3 trillion dollars

- Iran-Contra Affair

and

escalated the Cold War (before ending it)

+

A mentally diminshed President

But for all that he was quite good at making things look ok. Like Thatcher. Always smiling even when life is $hit.

That's cuz he was an actor! (And apparently a good one) ;)

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Under Reagan we had:

escalated the Cold War (before ending it)

That's the one thing I really give him credit for. He arms raced the Soviets into bankcruptcy which accelerated the release of the people of the Eastern Bloc from the ice cold grip of Moscow. Having grown up on the dark side of the Iron Curtain and having been a beneficiary of the collapse of the evil Soviet empire, I am eternally thankful for that. :yes:

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Under Reagan we had:

- The Savings & Loan Crisis

- THe Stock Market Crash

- raised the national debt from $700 billion dollars to $3 trillion dollars

- Iran-Contra Affair

and

escalated the Cold War (before ending it)

+

A mentally diminshed President

But for all that he was quite good at making things look ok. Like Thatcher. Always smiling even when life is $hit.

That's cuz he was an actor! (And apparently a good one) ;)

I've only seen one movie with him in it. It was good, but not because of him. His character got shot to death by Lee Marvin, who then shot Reagans girlfriend.

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Under Reagan we had:

- The Savings & Loan Crisis

- THe Stock Market Crash

- raised the national debt from $700 billion dollars to $3 trillion dollars

- Iran-Contra Affair

and

escalated the Cold War (before ending it)

+

A mentally diminshed President

The stock market crash was not really a crash. But at any rate that was coming long before Regan get there. You can thank Carter for that. The savings and lone crisis was the fault of bad regulations made over many years and it just happened to come to a head under Regan. He can't be blamed for that. The national debt was because he built up our military that was in a state of very bad disrepair after Vietnam and Carter. Something needed done and that costs money. The Iran-Contra affair was a problem but as I said all presidents have at least one major scandal. Not good but that is the nature of Washington and the one black mark on his term of office.

He kicked the azz of the USSR and took the looming danger of nuclear war off of our national soul. I don't know how old you are but I remember what it was like to always wonder if today was the last day for humans. For that Regan should be remembered as the #1 president of the 20th century.

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The stock market crash was not really a crash. But at any rate that was coming long before Regan get there. You can thank Carter for that. The savings and lone crisis was the fault of bad regulations made over many years and it just happened to come to a head under Regan. He can't be blamed for that. The national debt was because he built up our military that was in a state of very bad disrepair after Vietnam and Carter. Something needed done and that costs money. The Iran-Contra affair was a problem but as I said all presidents have at least one major scandal. Not good but that is the nature of Washington and the one black mark on his term of office.

He kicked the azz of the USSR and took the looming danger of nuclear war off of our national soul. I don't know how old you are but I remember what it was like to always wonder if today was the last day for humans. For that Regan should be remembered as the #1 president of the 20th century.

Gary, I remember the Stock Market Crash very well! It was not inconsequential. The crash happened in '87, SEVEN years after Carter.

Also, the Iran Contra Affair was damn big.

Good job on the USSR but not so good to put us into debt that huge.

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The stock market crash was not really a crash. But at any rate that was coming long before Regan get there. You can thank Carter for that. The savings and lone crisis was the fault of bad regulations made over many years and it just happened to come to a head under Regan. He can't be blamed for that. The national debt was because he built up our military that was in a state of very bad disrepair after Vietnam and Carter. Something needed done and that costs money. The Iran-Contra affair was a problem but as I said all presidents have at least one major scandal. Not good but that is the nature of Washington and the one black mark on his term of office.

He kicked the azz of the USSR and took the looming danger of nuclear war off of our national soul. I don't know how old you are but I remember what it was like to always wonder if today was the last day for humans. For that Regan should be remembered as the #1 president of the 20th century.

Gary, I remember the Stock Market Crash very well! It was not inconsequential. The crash happened in '87, SEVEN years after Carter.

Also, the Iran Contra Affair was damn big.

Good job on the USSR but not so good to put us into debt that huge.

I was there also. Working, raising a family and doing quite well. It wasn't as bad as some make it out to be.

Here is an story written a year after the "crash".

Anniversary of the crash - stock market crash of October 1987

Monthly Review, Nov, 1988

The stock market crash of October 19, 1987, came very close to touching off a full-fledged financial panic, which in all probability would have marked the beginning of a serious worldwide economic slump. This was the opinion of informed analysts of the economic scene at the time, and nothing has happened since to cause us to question its accuracy. What prevented the scenario from unfolding its feared was the prompt and massive intervention of the Federal Reserve, which opened its coffers to the threatened financial community, throwing tens of billions of dollars into circulation and promising more if needed.*

All of this occurred in the course of a cyclical upswing which had already lasted nearly five years (1983-87), ail extraordinarily long time by historical business-cycle standards. It was therefore natural to suppose that the shock of the crash, even though panic had been averted, would hasten the onset of an overdue recession. Now, a year later, it is clear that this did riot happen. The economy as a whole-measured by such conventional indexes as GNP, unemployment, and utilization of productive capacity-has remained pretty much on the pre-crash course, and in recent months, more and more commentators have been wondering whether, as one is said to have expressed it, the crash was more than a "thunderstorm on a summer day, full of sound and fury but signifying nothing."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m113..._v40/ai_6794848

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I saw that article this morning. It mentioned that we are significantly more for gay marriage than the older generations. We don't differ THAT much from the general population. We lean left, but don't the young almost always lean left?

I was a dem once upon a time. But then I just listened to the sound bytes. Whats funny is they have they have been makin the same empty promises since I can remember. Now its I'm gonna take those rich peoples money and start a new program. Hell there is still people out there waitin! lol.

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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." -

-- Winston Churchill

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



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Who wasn't waiting for that quote to surface. Of course, I'm sure Churchill's idea of liberal and conservative were a bit different.

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Inspiring people is a very big part of being a leader. I call it the bullsh1t factor in any good manager, it may be bs but it's real and it works.

True, but it only works to a point.

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