To all the immigrants on vj that arrived to the US after Jan 20 2017, happy first day in non Trump America!

[Dashinka 24,735]

3 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

He said "grab them by the" and "I assume some are good people". Didn't he? 

Not the question I asked.  Where did you get the measure you stated?

[Orangesapples 1,954]

Just now, Chauncey said:

It's very good you believe everything everyone tells you where there's no evidence. Good job

There's no evidence? Absolutely everything I said is true. Michael Cohen is in prison because of the money he paid to Stormy Daniels. Is this a lie? There is a tape in which Trump is bragging about grabbing women. Is this a lie? Trump said "ban all Muslims" and then created a ban based on this promise (very incompetently at first). He also famously said that Mexico is "not sending their best". Is this a lie? He's on video. 

 

He's also on video saying how he fell in love with Kim Jong Un after he wrote him beautiful letters. Is this a lie as well? 

[Dashinka 24,735]

Just now, Orangesapples said:

There's no evidence? Absolutely everything I said is true. Michael Cohen is in prison because of the money he paid to Stormy Daniels. Is this a lie? There is a tape in which Trump is bragging about grabbing women. Is this a lie? Trump said "ban all Muslims" and then created a ban based on this promise (very incompetently at first). He also famously said that Mexico is "not sending their best". Is this a lie? He's on video. 

 

He's also on video saying how he fell in love with Kim Jong Un after he wrote him beautiful letters. Is this a lie as well? 

Is Trump relevant anymore?  Time to switch your hatred to something else.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

10 minutes ago, Chauncey said:

I feel bad for the media, snl and all the other shows who have thrived so much on being against trump, they aren't gonna have any material anymore 

I mean, Trump basically was a joke himself, comedians did have it easy. They didn't even need to write jokes, they could just play his exact words and it was already funny (anyone remember him wanting to buy Greenland? I had some belly laughs on that one one). Still, I'll take less comedy for a better world. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

Is Trump relevant anymore?  Time to switch your hatred to something else.

What hatred? I'm celebrating! This is joy. 

 

And the damage Trump has done will be relevant for a long time. 

[B_J 2,752]

8 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I'm so, so relieved. I'm not a huge Biden fan but I think he'll do a competent job. And this is an excellent speech. Humility is an important part of having great power and privilege. Good to hear it again.

All I want from Biden is that he be normal.  The fact that congress is so evenly divided should prevent anything crazy from being passed.  Hopefully Biden can be, like you said, competent.  Get things done that most people can agree on and just be a normal President.

 

 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Is Trump relevant anymore?  Time to switch your hatred to something else.

So was what I said a lie or not? 

Just now, B_J said:

All I want from Biden is that he be normal.  The fact that congress is so evenly divided should prevent anything crazy from being passed.  Hopefully Biden can be, like you said, competent.  Get things done that most people can agree on and just be a normal President.

 

 

Yep, I'm celebrating having a normal president, no more "very stable genius". 

[Dashinka 24,735]

3 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

So was what I said a lie or not? 

Yep, I'm celebrating having a normal president, no more "very stable genius". 

Still wondering where the data is from that measures Trump 14k+ times more racist and sexist?  You seem fixated on the supposed Muslim ban on countries that are not cooperative in vetting potential legal immigrants as the racist aspect, but I don’t believe being Muslim is in fact an identified race (I have never seen it on any demographic poll I ever filled out).  Trump was a pompous you know what, and so is Old Joe.  You wish to deal with degrees, but it does not matter.  Old Joe has accusations of sexual misconduct against him as well that for some reason the accuser is dismissed by the same folks that say we always must believe them.  Anyway, not much has changed, partisanship gridlock will continue which given our current elitist leaders is probably not a bad thing.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Still wondering where the data is from that measures Trump 14k+ times more racist and sexist?  You seem fixated on the supposed Muslim ban on countries that are not cooperative in vetting potential legal immigrants as the racist aspect, but I don’t believe being Muslim is in fact an identified race (I have never seen it on any demographic poll I ever filled out).  Trump was a pompous you know what, and so is Old Joe.  You wish to deal with degrees, but it does not matter.  Old Joe has accusations of sexual misconduct against him as well that for some reason the accuser is dismissed by the same folks that say we always must believe them.  Anyway, not much has changed, partisanship gridlock will continue which given our current elitist leaders is probably not a bad thing.

The 14k+ was an obvious hyperbole, not a scientifically measurable difference. And Trump did say "ban all Muslims", didn't he? Do you seriously think his ban had nothing to do with this promise? 

 

I am not defending Biden. I believe women. But Trump is worse, much worse. Yes, degrees of badness matter. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Still wondering where the data is from that measures Trump 14k+ times more racist and sexist?  You seem fixated on the supposed Muslim ban on countries that are not cooperative in vetting potential legal immigrants as the racist aspect, but I don’t believe being Muslim is in fact an identified race (I have never seen it on any demographic poll I ever filled out).  Trump was a pompous you know what, and so is Old Joe.  You wish to deal with degrees, but it does not matter.  Old Joe has accusations of sexual misconduct against him as well that for some reason the accuser is dismissed by the same folks that say we always must believe them.  Anyway, not much has changed, partisanship gridlock will continue which given our current elitist leaders is probably not a bad thing.

Don't forget it was supposedly a Muslim ban that left out over 90% of Muslim world.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

 

9 minutes ago, B_J said:

All I want from Biden is that he be normal.  The fact that congress is so evenly divided should prevent anything crazy from being passed.  Hopefully Biden can be, like you said, competent.  Get things done that most people can agree on and just be a normal President.

Depends on what one calls normal. People who understand what Biden really means when he talks about unity know that its not unity of the populace, it's unity of these corrupt establishments wanting to wrestle back control of the country from left and right populism. Now that Trump is gone, the only real division at the top lies in Congress, that's the unity he wants (and they want), where they go back to pretending to be enemies in front of cameras fighting to better the US but everywhere else they're partners carving up America a little finer amongst themselves and their connections.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 minute ago, Orangesapples said:

I am not defending Biden. I believe women. But Trump is worse, much worse. Yes, degrees of badness matter. 

So you must believe Tara Reade right?

[Chauncey 138]

I fully expect the immigration bill he sent to congress to fail. It's just ridiculous

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

36 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

I have, but Trump actively bragged about storming in the changing rooms of 15-year-olds and he bragged about grabbing women by the genitalia. His lawyer has also been convicted of paying off his porn star mistress. Plus all the xenophobia and racism ("ban all Muslims" followed by a ban that was pretending to not be a Muslim ban, fear mongering about Mexicans, etc). It's not even close. 

 

And come on, where are all the celebratory posts? Fellow non Trumpers, join me! 

There's so much TDS hyperbole going on right now it looks more like a Trump inauguration.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Chauncey said:

I fully expect the immigration bill he sent to congress to fail. It's just ridiculous

 

They want it to pass, especially the Senate Republicans that are saying they're going to vote for it, they really want it. They just know they're toast if they do, so they're naturally marketing this as them caring about American health or employment.. for now.

 

The real entertainment over the next 4 years will be watching how much Manchin can resist bending the knee to demands to throw out the filibuster.

Edited January 20, 2021 by Burnt Reynolds

[Dashinka 24,735]

26 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

The 14k+ was an obvious hyperbole, not a scientifically measurable difference. And Trump did say "ban all Muslims", didn't he? Do you seriously think his ban had nothing to do with this promise? 

 

I am not defending Biden. I believe women. But Trump is worse, much worse. Yes, degrees of badness matter. 

Yep, degrees. I generally don’t focus on words, but actual actions.