IR-1/CR-1 Montreal DQ'd private message group goes public CONTINUED

[aurmorr 270]

6 minutes ago, Kai (CanadaDude) said:

My guess is that they really don't have many people who do the IV applications, from what it feels like they may have only 3-5 members on staff that do them. That doesn't give them much capacity if someone resigns/reassigned/long-term sick. You could probably get an idea of what the number of staff is by working out the days they do IV interviews, factor IV monthly issuance, estimate refusal rate and an estimated time to process each case. It would be a vague estimation, but one nonetheless. I wonder if I could FOI the DoS to ask how many IV ConOffs they have in MTL? xD

Yeah so a few months ago, the department of immigration did a press release that essentially said that only 10% of their cases are immigration and 90% are non-immigrant so they have their staff trained accordingly. They said they would train more people to address the IV backlog, but the statistics just don't reflect that at all. They spoke for immigration on the whole though, not for Canada- but I don't see that reflected here. If 90% of the visas are not mission-critical and not being processed, shouldn't those staff be cross trained? Are they on leave for COVID because their job isn't available? They also only do interviews for a few hours a day, a few days a week. I would be a lot less upset if there was literally any communication or transparency- they haven't posted anything transparent about the changes or updates they've made since February to and like, if they could help us understand what is going on on their end I would be more understanding, even if I didn't like it, I would feel like I was being acknowledged. I just feel forgotten by the process in its entirety. I am exhausted from being hopeful. 

 

Also @Nikasalts 

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Something has to give.....I'm afraid it's the prospect immigrants choosing their US partners have to give. It's not an easy and fast route for a reason 😕 

The problem isn't the "prospect immigrants choosing their US partners", and honestly a rude thing to say. No, this is not an "easy or fast route" and everyone here knows that, but it has never been like this before and this situation is not in line with the expectations set by any level or department involved in the process when I began this process two years ago. To shrug it off in a "you should've known better" manner is invalidating and upsetting. After USCIS, this was supposed to be 1-3 months of waiting for an interview by the Consulate's own attestation. I'm at 7 months of waiting and likely won't get an IL until June, with an interview in July, and then visa issued for August. That's 10-11 months. It's wildly unreasonable and completely unforeseeable that any of us would be in this situation. This is not par-for-the-course and goes above and beyond any of the already 'not easy or fast routes' that people have to go through. 

 

Especially anyone with an IR category who has already been married over two years, proving their long-term relationship and stability, as they likely waited to file to make sure everything was done 'by the book' to make sure the process was as easy as possible.

[Nikasalts 10]

20 minutes ago, aurmorr said:

 

 

Also @Nikasalts 

The problem isn't the "prospect immigrants choosing their US partners", and honestly a rude thing to say. No, this is not an "easy or fast route" and everyone here knows that, but it has never been like this before and this situation is not in line with the expectations set by any level or department involved in the process when I began this process two years ago. To shrug it off in a "you should've known better" manner is invalidating and upsetting. After USCIS, this was supposed to be 1-3 months of waiting for an interview by the Consulate's own attestation. I'm at 7 months of waiting and likely won't get an IL until June, with an interview in July, and then visa issued for August. That's 10-11 months. It's wildly unreasonable and completely unforeseeable that any of us would be in this situation. This is not par-for-the-course and goes above and beyond any of the already 'not easy or fast routes' that people have to go through. 

 

Especially anyone with an IR category who has already been married over two years, proving their long-term relationship and stability, as they likely waited to file to make sure everything was done 'by the book' to make sure the process was as easy as possible.

I totally hear you and my post wasn't meant to be rude. I'm in the same boat, impatiently waiting to be with my husband. The wait times are absolutely insane and I was more so referring to some other post about a layer quoting 2 year  immigration visa wait time now....very disheartening and discouraging. I don't see much of procedural infrastructure changing (because there's no incentive to do so) therefore the burden ("the give in") is on our end unfortunately. Emotional burden...and that's upsetting. I'm not saying "you should have known better". I've been through immigration processes before but this one is by far the most painful one due to the separation.     

[aurmorr 270]

8 minutes ago, Nikasalts said:

I totally hear you and my post wasn't meant to be rude. I'm in the same boat, impatiently waiting to be with my husband. The wait times are absolutely insane and I was more so referring to some other post about a layer quoting 2 year  immigration visa wait time now....very disheartening and discouraging. I don't see much of procedural infrastructure changing (because there's no incentive to do so) therefore the burden ("the give in") is on our end unfortunately. Emotional burden...and that's upsetting. I'm not saying "you should have known better". I've been through immigration processes before but this one is by far the most painful one due to the separation.     

Ohhh okay I understand- I figured I /must/ be interpreting this incorrectly, but my wife read your comment the same way. Sorry if it seemed I was jumping down your throat.

But yeah I feel really bad for people who are just getting to DQ now and, you're right, with no procedural changes it all falls on the families that are at the mercy of the process. When COVID came around, Canada made a special program for helping families across borders and I would've been overjoyed if there were any similar program instituted in the US- the emotional burden is so much more than many can handle as we navigate a global pandemic. There have been families in the last few months worry about so any things that they just absolutely should not have had to wade through. Thank goodness they make us have insurance and healthcare because we are going to all need therapy when this is over.

[Kai G. Llewellyn 837]

16 minutes ago, Nikasalts said:

I totally hear you and my post wasn't meant to be rude. I'm in the same boat, impatiently waiting to be with my husband. The wait times are absolutely insane and I was more so referring to some other post about a layer quoting 2 year  immigration visa wait time now....very disheartening and discouraging. I don't see much of procedural infrastructure changing (because there's no incentive to do so) therefore the burden ("the give in") is on our end unfortunately. Emotional burden...and that's upsetting. I'm not saying "you should have known better". I've been through immigration processes before but this one is by far the most painful one due to the separation.     

Unfortunately, the delays to an extent are by design. Immigration programs are set in law, INA and IRIRA define in statute the different classes of visas and the quotas. This is different from other countries where many/most immigration programs and quotas are defined in regulation (which the government has full control over). Therefore, it is exceptionally hard these days to abolish and modify immigration programs in the US as you basically need bipartisan agreement in the Senate, which is definitely not going to happen on a highly charged issue of immigration.

 

Therefore, if the legal basis of the immigration programs can't be changed then the government resorts to changing the execution of the programs to de facto make them unworkable if they want to restrict numbers. The previous administration was indicative of that...there was no method at which they could abolish immigration as whole or cut back on 'chain migration' and so forth without legislative change. So, they broke the timely processing of petitions and visas instead, to cause applicants to get fed up and abandon the process. Given the number of people who do apply, I would imagine there is not an insignificant number of applications that get withdrawn due to relationship breakdowns, trying for a different country and so forth because the processing takes so long because people get fed up or that there is a greater chance for a material change in circumstances to terminate the application ...this effective adds up to be a non-legislative control on immigration.

 

Prime example is also of the K-3 visa, it's defined in statue and exists for a purpose, however the administration of applications has de facto caused it to not operate for all intents and purposes.

Edited May 12, 2021 by Kai (CanadaDude)

[Twiz&Toz 240]

I just want to say at lest we have this form or else we all would be sitting in the dark wondering is this my month. No formal updates but we are trying we are working with restrictions month in and month out. We have a google doc so we can at lest kind get a ruff idea of an eta. 

[Mikeeastern 81]

1 minute ago, Twiz&Toz said:

I just want to say at lest we have this form or else we all would be sitting in the dark wondering is this my month. No formal updates but we are trying we are working with restrictions month in and month out. We have a google doc so we can at lest kind get a ruff idea of an eta. 

You think tomorrow or Friday or IL? 

[Kai G. Llewellyn 837]

3 minutes ago, Twiz&Toz said:

I just want to say at lest we have this form or else we all would be sitting in the dark wondering is this my month. No formal updates but we are trying we are working with restrictions month in and month out. We have a google doc so we can at lest kind get a ruff idea of an eta. 

Ahaha, I think that Google Doc is all collectively keeping us sane. If it weren't for that and VJ, we would be completely in the dark. Would we get an interview in a week? A year? Five? Who knows...and apparently that's just fine according to DoS.

 

@Mikeeastern Thurs, Fri or Monday. After Tuesday I think June is off the cards for any interviews because there's not enough notice and I don't think any IL's have gone out after the 18th of the month in the past.

Edited May 12, 2021 by Kai (CanadaDude)

[State and Maine 190]

3 minutes ago, Kai (CanadaDude) said:

Ahaha, I think that Google Doc is all collectively keeping us sane. If it weren't for that and VJ, we would be completely in the dark. Would we get an interview in a week? A year? Five? Who knows...and apparently that's just fine according to DoS.

 

@Mikeeastern Thurs, Fri or Monday. After Tuesday I think June is off the cards for any interviews because there's not enough notice and I don't think any IL's have gone out after the 18th of the month.

Definitely glad I stumbled upon this during my darkest days of wondering what’s next… this group has been so helped informing me and my wife the past few months. 
 

I think we should hear about interviews soon as I know kvisa interview letters for June went out last Friday. Couldn’t imagine them shutting us out but who knows at this point. 🤷‍♂️

[Twiz&Toz 240]

5 minutes ago, State and Maine said:

Definitely glad I stumbled upon this during my darkest days of wondering what’s next… this group has been so helped informing me and my wife the past few months. 
 

I think we should hear about interviews soon as I know kvisa interview letters for June went out last Friday. Couldn’t imagine them shutting us out but who knows at this point. 🤷‍♂️

That last part is my biggest fear lol I want to be home by Xmas! Been waiting 3 years to put my tree up.

[Kai G. Llewellyn 837]

12 minutes ago, State and Maine said:

Definitely glad I stumbled upon this during my darkest days of wondering what’s next… this group has been so helped informing me and my wife the past few months. 
 

I think we should hear about interviews soon as I know kvisa interview letters for June went out last Friday. Couldn’t imagine them shutting us out but who knows at this point. 🤷‍♂️

Out of curiosity, do we have an idea of the DQ dates of the K visa interviewees that got penned in for June?

[State and Maine 190]

2 minutes ago, Kai (CanadaDude) said:

Out of curiosity, do we have an idea of the DQ dates of the K visa interviewees that got penned in for June?

The one I saw on Facebook her date was May 2020 and interview is June 28th

[Nikasalts 10]

26 minutes ago, Kai (CanadaDude) said:

Unfortunately, the delays to an extent are by design. Immigration programs are set in law, INA and IRIRA define in statute the different classes of visas and the quotas. This is different from other countries where many/most immigration programs and quotas are defined in regulation (which the government has full control over). Therefore, it is exceptionally hard these days to abolish and modify immigration programs in the US as you basically need bipartisan agreement in the Senate, which is definitely not going to happen on a highly charged issue of immigration.

 

Therefore, if the legal basis of the immigration programs can't be changed then the government resorts to changing the execution of the programs to de facto make them unworkable if they want to restrict numbers. The previous administration was indicative of that...there was no method at which they could abolish immigration as whole or cut back on 'chain migration' and so forth without legislative change. So, they broke the timely processing of petitions and visas instead, to cause applicants to get fed up and abandon the process. Given the number of people who do apply, I would imagine there is not an insignificant number of applications that get withdrawn due to relationship breakdowns, trying for a different country and so forth because the processing takes so long because people get fed up or that there is a greater chance for a material change in circumstances to terminate the application ...this effective adds up to be a non-legislative control on immigration.

 

Prime example is also of the K-3 visa, it's defined in statue and exists for a purpose, however the administration of applications has de facto caused it to not operate for all intents and purposes.

This is exactly how I see it. Delays made by design to scare people off and control immigration flow this way. 

[Kai G. Llewellyn 837]

1 minute ago, State and Maine said:

The one I saw on Facebook her date was May 2020 and interview is June 28th

Oh god...that's awful. x.x

[DGF 730]

2 hours ago, Kai (CanadaDude) said:

My guess is that they really don't have many people who do the IV applications, from what it feels like they may have only 3-5 members on staff that do them. That doesn't give them much capacity if someone resigns/reassigned/long-term sick. You could probably get an idea of what the number of staff is by working out the days they do IV interviews, factor IV monthly issuance, estimate refusal rate and an estimated time to process each case. It would be a vague estimation, but one nonetheless. I wonder if I could FOI the DoS to ask how many IV ConOffs they have in MTL? xD

We should start including a physical description of our interviewer in our interview recaps to figure out how many there are  Imagine one of us walking in and complimenting their interviewer on their haircut because we know what the 3-5 people interviewing us generally look like haha.

[aurmorr 270]

14 minutes ago, State and Maine said:

The one I saw on Facebook her date was May 2020 and interview is June 28th

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yXsBaODEcERCnBkkVhTklmw1LrFVkY9dE6z2Q5D2kCc/edit?usp=sharing

Here is the spreadsheet for our K visa friends