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So we get a new analytical tool at work. 

 

It analyzes your percent likelihood to want to buy an automobile.  

 

It looks at such things as equity in old car, predicted credit profile, carfax on current car, service history, TWITTER FEED, LINKEDIN FEED,puclic records and many other things.

 

It then runs an algorithm to determine your likelihood.to buy.

 

That is scary

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06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

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04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So we get a new analytical tool at work. 

 

It analyzes your percent likelihood to want to buy an automobile.  

 

It looks at such things as equity in old car, predicted credit profile, carfax on current car, service history, TWITTER FEED, LINKEDIN FEED,puclic records and many other things.

 

It then runs an algorithm to determine your likelihood.to buy.

 

That is scary

 

  What if I don't want to buy? Can the algorithm still make me? 

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So we get a new analytical tool at work. 

 

It analyzes your percent likelihood to want to buy an automobile.  

 

It looks at such things as equity in old car, predicted credit profile, carfax on current car, service history, TWITTER FEED, LINKEDIN FEED,puclic records and many other things.

 

It then runs an algorithm to determine your likelihood.to buy.

 

That is scary

Welcome to the godsend of big data, wonderful for companies, politicians (which is why they don't want to update archaic laws) and easymode for analysts, absolutely wretched for consumer privacy.

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4 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

equity in old car, predicted credit profile, carfax on current car, service history,

I get the twitter/FB, public records stuff....but where are they pulling the other info? Is that publicly available somewhere?

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Sales departments can get your CarFax & service histories from your VIN.

They can scope your credit when you give them a copy of your driver's license for test-drives.

And it's not just Joe Isuzu who can and will do that.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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16 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So we get a new analytical tool at work. 

 

It analyzes your percent likelihood to want to buy an automobile.  

 

It looks at such things as equity in old car, predicted credit profile, carfax on current car, service history, TWITTER FEED, LINKEDIN FEED,puclic records and many other things.

 

It then runs an algorithm to determine your likelihood.to buy.

 

That is scary

Places have been doing this for some time. In the end though, while they can gather a lot of data about the person, it's still up to the person to decide.

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1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Places have been doing this for some time. In the end though, while they can gather a lot of data about the person, it's still up to the person to decide.

Can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink, right?

 

  I think it's not so much about who is going to buy a car, ostensibly everyone who walks onto the lot has some interest in buying a car. The app is more about how much time and effort that will take, and perhaps about how much money will be involved.

 

   

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12 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Sales departments can get your CarFax & service histories from your VIN.

They can scope your credit when you give them a copy of your driver's license for test-drives.

And it's not just Joe Isuzu who can and will do that.

You are mostly right. They can not pull your credit by you just giving them your drivers License. They need your SSN and to do so without out consent  is a pretty serious offense

 

They know what the terms are on what you are currently driving and looking at the car fax can estimate your equity. They also know your last interest rate and estimate your current

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1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Places have been doing this for some time. In the end though, while they can gather a lot of data about the person, it's still up to the person to decide.

Can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink, right?

Oh yes absolutely. Its just a grade from analytics on how likely they think you are to buy.  

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17 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I think it's not so much about who is going to buy a car, ostensibly everyone who walks onto the lot has some interest in buying a car. The app is more about how much time and effort that will take, and perhaps about how much money will be involved.

 

   

You are almost right. Not everyone that comes on the lot is interested. We do get some that it just gives them something to do.

 

My favorite during the holidays is... We are in town visiting my son in the Air Force. We are planning on buying in 2 months back in Minnesota and thought we would get out while he is busy and drive a few of everything on your lot.

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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

You are almost right. Not everyone that comes on the lot is interested. We do get some that it just gives them something to do.

 

My favorite during the holidays is... We are in town visiting my son in the Air Force. We are planning on buying in 2 months back in Minnesota and thought we would get out while he is busy and drive a few of everything on your lot.

 

  I imagine the last thing you want to do in sales is spend an hour with someone who has no intention of buying, so I think the app would be geared to helping with that. 

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1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I imagine the last thing you want to do in sales is spend an hour with someone who has no intention of buying, so I think the app would be geared to helping with that. 

Oh it sucks when you stand out front for 2 hours waiting in line to catch a customer and you get people are not interested in buying what so ever, people accuse car salesman of being liars but buyers almost always lie.

 

The app is for previous customers you would call to get in, not lot ups.

 

My only problem is I dont call people. I hated it before I got in the business and suspect most people hate being bothered. I am probably the most laid back non pushy honest sales guy in America. I was the only person in the dealership that had a perfect 100% survey score for the year.

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12 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I was the only person in the dealership that had a perfect 100% survey score for the year.

The only way to keep this rating is to upvote absolutely all of Someone's posts.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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