The second impeachment of Donald Trump thread

[Boiler 45,946]

14 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Tim Pool did a segment about him and directly critiqued his CNN statement with the actual charge sheet. It seems like he is one of the main ones actually instigating things

Well need to go look.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Just now, Boiler said:

Well need to go look.

I will post it tomorrow because it was during his daily live show. They will snippet it and have it ready tomorrow 

[Crazy Cat 42,069]

12 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I will post it tomorrow because it was during his daily live show. They will snippet it and have it ready tomorrow 

This one?

 

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

20 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

This one?

 

 

Yep

[Dashinka 24,735]

Seems appropriate here.  More cancel culture from the Left.  This is why I hate when they label the Dems/Leftist as Liberals, as I don't remember true Liberals ever going this far.  Now I doubt this will actually happen, but considering that it is even an issue with the current Harvard Students makes me think they really have not learned anything.  Btw, a college degree from any college is neither a privilege or a right, it is something someone earned.

 

Students Demand Harvard Revoke Degrees of Alumni Affiliated with Donald Trump

 

The petition, entitled, “Revoke their Degrees,” specifically names Harvard graduates Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), and White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, and refers to them as “violent actors.”

“Harvard must revoke the degrees of alumni whose incendiary language and subversion of democratic processes — rooted in a history of white supremacist voter suppression — incited the violent insurrection on January 6,” reads the petition.

“A wide body of evidence, including studies from Harvard researchers, suggests that societies cannot recover from civil strife without a process for holding violent actors accountable,” the petition adds.

The petition, which was circulated by four students who attend Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, goes on to argue that a Harvard degree is “a privilege, not a right.”

“A Harvard degree is a privilege, not a right,” reads the petition. “Harvard had no qualms about rescinding offers of admission to high school students because of racist activity online that did not reflect the University’s values. But holding teenagers accountable is easy. Harvard should have the will to hold adult insurrectionists to the same standards.”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/01/15/students-demand-harvard-revoke-degrees-of-alumni-affiliated-with-donald-trump/

Edited January 15, 2021 by Dashinka

[Steeleballz 7,550]

32 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Seems appropriate here.  More cancel culture from the Left.  This is why I hate when they label the Dems/Leftist as Liberals, as I don't remember true Liberals ever going this far.  Now I doubt this will actually happen, but considering that it is even an issue with the current Harvard Students makes me think they really have not learned anything.  Btw, a college degree from any college is neither a privilege or a right, it is something someone earned.

 

Students Demand Harvard Revoke Degrees of Alumni Affiliated with Donald Trump

 

The petition, entitled, “Revoke their Degrees,” specifically names Harvard graduates Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), and White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, and refers to them as “violent actors.”

“Harvard must revoke the degrees of alumni whose incendiary language and subversion of democratic processes — rooted in a history of white supremacist voter suppression — incited the violent insurrection on January 6,” reads the petition.

“A wide body of evidence, including studies from Harvard researchers, suggests that societies cannot recover from civil strife without a process for holding violent actors accountable,” the petition adds.

The petition, which was circulated by four students who attend Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, goes on to argue that a Harvard degree is “a privilege, not a right.”

“A Harvard degree is a privilege, not a right,” reads the petition. “Harvard had no qualms about rescinding offers of admission to high school students because of racist activity online that did not reflect the University’s values. But holding teenagers accountable is easy. Harvard should have the will to hold adult insurrectionists to the same standards.”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/01/15/students-demand-harvard-revoke-degrees-of-alumni-affiliated-with-donald-trump/

 

   Legally schools can revoke academic degrees unilaterally for fraud or error but due process must be afforded. Any other reason will end up in court.

 

  Perhaps they are confusing academic degrees with honorary degrees? 

[Dashinka 24,735]

7 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Legally schools can revoke academic degrees unilaterally for fraud or error but due process must be afforded. Any other reason will end up in court.

 

  Perhaps they are confusing academic degrees with honorary degrees? 

I don't think Cruz, Crenshaw or McEnany have honorary degrees from Harvard.  Honestly, honorary degrees are as much of a joke as the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I don't think Cruz, Crenshaw or McEnany have honorary degrees from Harvard.  Honestly, honorary degrees are as much of a joke as the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

   I agree, but since honorary degrees are given without merit or condition, they can be taken away the same way. We've seen that happen before. Academic degrees don't work that way.

[Dashinka 24,735]

18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I agree, but since honorary degrees are given without merit or condition, they can be taken away the same way. We've seen that happen before. Academic degrees don't work that way.

I agree, maybe the current students at Harvard will decide to boycott.

[Crazy Cat 42,069]

 

48 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I don't think Cruz, Crenshaw or McEnany have honorary degrees from Harvard.  Honestly, honorary degrees are as much of a joke as the Nobel Peace Prize.

The question is not if they can be taken away....but should they be taken away......this smells like intolerance, and  elimination of those who have different political opinions.  This kind of stuff has no place in the United States of America.  This is the kind of stuff people have given their lives for to prevent.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Lucky Cat

[Crazy Cat 42,069]

41 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

  Perhaps they are confusing academic degrees with honorary degrees? 

Perhaps they aren't.

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/harvard-students-seek-to-revoke-diplomas-of-trump-supporting-graduates-following-capitol-hill-violence

 

"Following last year’s efforts to ban Trump Administration officials from speaking on campus, Harvard University students are now circulating a petition that calls for revoking degrees from Trump supporters and aides who attended the elite Ivy League institution, FOX Business has learned."

Edited January 15, 2021 by Lucky Cat

[Boiler 45,946]

A boycott seems the right response.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Yeah, the issue there is cancel culture. But I also think the more recent issue as well is outrage culture, outrage monetization, and so on. Cancer/cancel culture is going to do what they do because weak or agreeable morons let it be effective. Why people wind up listening to them is because outrage culture effectively does nothing. There's no incentive to listen to them. Further, outrage monetization works, especially on social media, getting people to simply react to things indefinitely which also does nothing useful but helps those driving attention to that specific topic. Either way, outrage culture is pointless and even toxic. Recognition is really what one needs, followed by actions demonstrating intent and follow-through in getting it changed. So, bug the university, bug the company, stop giving them money, stop giving them attention, avoid Ivy League schools, avoid their sports, merch, make choices that might be tough but more importantly sends a message. The weak people tipped over to cancel culture are often relativists who listen to those who bug (if not coerce) them the most. Reinforce rationality. But do not stoop. The worst thing to do is validate their behavior. When you then go and complain to some other institution to get them "cancelled" in revenge, you are worsening it. Use your head, don't reflexively *react*.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Burnt Reynolds

[Lemonslice 4,959]

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

24 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Perhaps they aren't.

 

 

 

   I understand what they are saying. To clarify, perhaps they are confusing the options available. There are no avenues to revoke a legitimately earned academic degree, regardless of how loud anyone protests. That path sometimes works with an honorary degree. 

 

  An academic degree can only be revoked for specific types of misconduct that occurred while the degree was being earned. An attempt to revoke a degree for any other reason, or for conduct that occurred after the degree was earned would not be successful. I don't see Harvard going down that road. They are in the business of charging a huge sum of money for the "privilege" of having their name on a degree. Attempting to take that back illegitimately would be foolish. They would be in the wrong, they gain nothing, and they have a lot to lose.