HELP ... AGAIN

[RGNSCOT 0]

HI GUYS, as you may remember.. when i recieved my police report from strathclyde it had a motoring offence on it, well i got my report from scotland yard last week and it is clean so.... big question do igive both report or just the one from scotland yard as thats the one the embassy states

not trying to get out of this REALLY i have the information about my accident and the fine details but should i give them the two reports?????

ta aggy

[Converse34 1]

Give them the scotland yard one. Two is confusing and drawing unnecessary attention to yourself. Always be honest of course, but you dont need to wear information on your sleave either. IMHO of course.

Edited June 28, 2007 by Converse34

[YuAndDan 153]

Use the Scotland yard one.

Also a motoring offense is not what they consider to be a cause of inadmissibility.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

They want the Scotland Yard one, so you're in luck! And as others (and I think myself on an earlier post) have said, motoring offences are not an issue.

Good luck at your interview -- we want another big red APPROVED to put on the list!

[RGNSCOT 0]

They want the Scotland Yard one, so you're in luck! And as others (and I think myself on an earlier post) have said, motoring offences are not an issue.

Good luck at your interview -- we want another big red APPROVED to put on the list!

THANK YOU MAVEN AND EVERYONE ELSE, dont want to hand them my scotland yard one for them to say geez yer other wan (said in mock scottish accent) lol i,m getting butterflies and cant eat, well cant eat the proper food lol just junk dont worry i,ll be heading for internet cafe on oxford st as soon as i get out of the embassy.

ta aggyxx

[Mags 112]

Yes, use the Scotland Yard one, that's the most important one. But, I would still take the other one with me anyway, that way you have all bases covered and are not excluding anything that may be needed, information wise.

Play it straight and be honest.

Good luck!

Edited June 28, 2007 by mags

[Boiler 45,948]

Depends on the motoring offence.

You need to declare all your convictions per the question they asked, and also supply the Police Report.

The Police Report may or may not include all the information you need to provide.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Depends on the motoring offence.

You need to declare all your convictions per the question they asked, and also supply the Police Report.

The Police Report may or may not include all the information you need to provide.

We dealt with the issue in a previous thread -- general consensus was that it was NOT something to worry about. I take your point that the police report doesn't necessarily include all the info, especially where a conviction is deemed "spent" under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act as the US doesn't recognise that a conviction is ever spent. However, the offence was more of a fixed penalty notice issue and not a conviction, and as such did not need to be disclosed, any more than a speeding ticket.

[Lansbury 19]

HI GUYS, as you may remember.. when i recieved my police report from strathclyde it had a motoring offence on it, well i got my report from scotland yard last week and it is clean so.... big question do igive both report or just the one from scotland yard as thats the one the embassy states

not trying to get out of this REALLY i have the information about my accident and the fine details but should i give them the two reports?????

ta aggy

You have to provide a police report for all countries you have lived in for more than 12 months.

Scotland and England/Wales have separate criminal law and separate criminal records. The police certificate your got from Scotland Yard only covers England and Wales, the one from Scotland only covers Scotland, so if you have lived in both countries strictly speaking you need both.

I thought the above was the case but to make sure I e-mailed a former colleague who is still serving and got him to check if Scottish convictions were on the PNC and they are not.

[Lansbury 19]

I must apologise for my misleading answer to the OP.

Indeed the Scottish and English/Welsh legal systems are different but all the convictions from both are on the PNC.

When I saw the question I believed that to be the case but then couldn't recall ever seeing Scottish convictions on the PNC when I had done checks on it, so I decided to check and see. Unfortuantely I decided to e-mail an ex colleague and friend when he had had a rather too many drams and thought it would be quite funny to give me wrong information.

Again sorry if I have given anyone undue cause for concern.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I must apologise for my misleading answer to the OP.

Indeed the Scottish and English/Welsh legal systems are different but all the convictions from both are on the PNC.

When I saw the question I believed that to be the case but then couldn't recall ever seeing Scottish convictions on the PNC when I had done checks on it, so I decided to check and see. Unfortuantely I decided to e-mail an ex colleague and friend when he had had a rather too many drams and thought it would be quite funny to give me wrong information.

Again sorry if I have given anyone undue cause for concern.

Phew! I thought that didn't make sense -- glad you cleared that up so quickly, and I'm sure Agnes (RGNSCOT) is too!

[RGNSCOT 0]

I must apologise for my misleading answer to the OP.

Indeed the Scottish and English/Welsh legal systems are different but all the convictions from both are on the PNC.

When I saw the question I believed that to be the case but then couldn't recall ever seeing Scottish convictions on the PNC when I had done checks on it, so I decided to check and see. Unfortuantely I decided to e-mail an ex colleague and friend when he had had a rather too many drams and thought it would be quite funny to give me wrong information.

Again sorry if I have given anyone undue cause for concern.

Phew! I thought that didn't make sense -- glad you cleared that up so quickly, and I'm sure Agnes (RGNSCOT) is too!

Yep,i thought it was my nightshift eyes causing me to see NON SENSE lol, well, not long to go now, and then at least i,ll have an answer for somone asking the same thing lol

[selly 0]

I was surprised to find my police record came back as clean as I have a Driving With Undue Care and Attention conviction which was heard in the magistrates court and for which I received a nice fine and some penalty points. In advance of the record coming I applied for the court record and declared it etc on all of the visa paperwork as I took it as red that it would appear on the record. Little did I know that I could have just ignored it and saved myself the court documentation fee. However now that I have it I will just present it at the interview along with the clean record. I think as long as you bare your soul and do not try to hide anything they will not have a problem with what you present......... hopefully. (That is unless you are precluded through a severe offence etc). That's it now all the ducks are lined up in a row and ready for presenting on the 19th.

[C and J 1]

This post slightly confused me and I hope someone can clear it up for me. I see a few of you stating that a Scotland Yard issued CR is required by the embassy. Did the OP ask for the criminal record from Scotland Yard because he lived in the London area at some point?

The reason I ask is that when I was looking to request a subject access form previously (it's clean) I could only ask for the record from Thames Valley Police and, on the Met site, it states that you have to contact the police-body responsible for your area. They all check the same computer database so why is Scotland Yard only important in this case?

[Mags 112]

This post slightly confused me and I hope someone can clear it up for me. I see a few of you stating that a Scotland Yard issued CR is required by the embassy. Did the OP ask for the criminal record from Scotland Yard because he lived in the London area at some point?

The reason I ask is that when I was looking to request a subject access form previously (it's clean) I could only ask for the record from Thames Valley Police and, on the Met site, it states that you have to contact the police-body responsible for your area. They all check the same computer database so why is Scotland Yard only important in this case?

All police checks go through Scotland Yard, but you apply to the police force where you live. If you live in London you apply to the Met, whose headquarters are...Scotland Yard.

Hope that helps.