Trump banned from Twitter!

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

19 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    I'm sure Biden has been given many free passes in his time, but as it pertains to the specific point raised, Biden hasn't served as president for a single day yet, so no free pass for that one yet.

 

   I don't really get this approach. I generally supported Obama but I used to criticize his policies often. Can people not just say Trump did something wrong without deflecting or changing the topic to what someone else did?

And I generally supported Trump but criticized his actions and narcissistic ways frequently. 

 

Trump did something wrong, in that he should have conceded the election much earlier and got the Biden team up and running because of covid. If it were one state with massive irregular things yes. But 4 states. 

 

My only rub is the stark hypocrisy between these rioters and the BLM riots that went on 4 months

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 hours ago, laylalex said:

I LOL'd so hard I had problems breathing for a bit. Are we doing retroactive Antifa membership now?   

 

 

  It get's really bad once you throw in Genghis Khan and the Mongolian Empire Antifa.

[nykolos 711]

6 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   When have you called him out? All I have seen you say is he has a big mouth but basically you agree with him. 

 

And don't put words in my mouth, I agree with Trump ideologically, You and other Dems and Libs here agree with Biden on just about everything under the sun, including the riots, so much for intellectual honesty.

 

 

Edited January 13, 2021 by nykolos

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, nykolos said:

 

And don't put words in my mouth, I agree with Trump ideologically, You and other Dems and Libs here agree with Biden on just about everything under the sun, including the riots, so much for intellectual honesty.

 

 

 

     You might think you called him out, but you spent more of your time defending him than criticizing him in that prior post. 

 

   

[TBoneTX 45,284]

Everyone should please try to calm down, folks.

[Dashinka 24,493]

15 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I assume you mean 2020? Thirty murders seems high in 12 days, even for right wing extremists. 

 

Not in Chicago.

[nykolos 711]

6 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     You might think you called him out, but you spent more of your time defending him than criticizing him in that prior post. 

  

Nothing wrong with defending the most successful President in 30 years, too bad you wont ever one.

 

 

 

[nykolos 711]

6 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Everyone should please try to calm down, folks.

This is more than what Biden said in all of 2020

 

 

[nykolos 711]

 

 

Good riddance! 

 

 

Edited January 13, 2021 by nykolos

[seekingthetruth 1,246]

1 hour ago, nykolos said:

 

 

Good riddance! 

 

 

Keep it going!  I shorted the Nasdaq on Monday.  Interesting comments on Yahoo Finance.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TWTR/community?p=TWTR

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FB/community?p=FB

[Dashinka 24,493]

2 hours ago, nykolos said:

 

 

Good riddance! 

 

 

Never had a Twitter account, never saw the value in it.  I used to do FB for some family and friends connections, but dropped that 4 years ago.  FB also was of no real value and the connections could be done by other means.  

[Boiler 45,486]

I opened a twit account to message AirBnB seemed the only way to get hold of someone.

 

Never tweeted, I have an Ad blocker so they do not male a dime off my occasional perusal.

 

Facebook I am active on for a Non Profit situation, occasionally people message me, trying to move to Signal.

[yuna628 9,676]

Must say that the Twitter legal response to Parler was a beautiful thing to read. A work of art from that law group. They chewed Parler up, spit them out, and then ran over them for good measure. I anticipate Parler will withdraw the suit, but if they persist they will be destroyed and laughed out of court. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664.10.0_1.pdf

[Dashinka 24,493]

49 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Must say that the Twitter legal response to Parler was a beautiful thing to read. A work of art from that law group. They chewed Parler up, spit them out, and then ran over them for good measure. I anticipate Parler will withdraw the suit, but if they persist they will be destroyed and laughed out of court. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664.10.0_1.pdf

I think you meant AWS and not Twitter since I don't believe Parler sued Twitter.  Probably a frivolous, but how else would the leeches make money. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Never had a Twitter account, never saw the value in it.  I used to do FB for some family and friends connections, but dropped that 4 years ago.  FB also was of no real value and the connections could be done by other means.  

There was a useful value in getting information more timely and in a condensed fashion (the way we thought of Google or Wikipedia), for example I'd check #abtraffic, #yyctraffic, #yycroads, #yyc, and so on. City communications, Police, Fire, or RCMP would use Twitter and FB to communicate to people in a community if something was happening, like burst pipes, regional theft, fires, vandalism, or even active shooters so people wouldn't panic if they saw an armored vehicle and SWAT like police (or non uniformed officers) walking down the road with rifles in HR. They served as points of communication for people in a neighborhood or community watch, for events, crime/suspicious people alerts, product deals, general help or info, and so on. 

 

They even had their value from a strategic marketing standpoint. It was at one time possible to cue general trends (consumer and political) from a broad approach. It's always been useful for targeted differentiation for those who are most active and that won't change even though they're wrecking their own platforms now. 

 

These two companies in particular have their own partnerships and basically Trump being elected threw a wrench in this ridiculously predictable and entitled meritocracy surrounding (federal) elected office, using their platforms at that, knowing how to utilize broad appeal to connect with people. People in the bureaus, media, party establishment, those with primary connections to these tech giants really went at them to control their platforms because they simply found someone not in their little meritocratic environment to be against their personal interests which they clearly place above the populace's interests (eg rights, transparency, being informed). Realizing this, they didn't hide the fact that they needed to produce different outcomes which is why they radically changed their policies and approach befitting their own environment. The media and others helped prep an unhinged entitled party fanatic base to adopt more authoritarian viewpoints so that they could suppress undesirable opinions while maintaining ideological control over those that vote and think in a way that caters to their system and strategy. 

 

This is basically a microcosm for such meritocratic groups. They particularly utilized the bureaus who are highly experienced in producing social instability. People in local/state governments were simply part of this group or were bought off by organizations seeking to likewise produce more instability. They know there was never any good outcome to radical changes allowing illegal immigrants, not prosecuting criminals, immediately releasing them back to the public to wreak havoc especially rioters, while selectively targeting people in this virus enforcement. All malicious and designed to increase instability. This is why we saw such extreme/drastic changes all over the place in such a short period of time. The entire point was to produce instability and in a multitude of ways. One was to dramatically increase the personal animus (persona politics) of the populace and to connect with them by showing certain people in bureaus and such with similar traits. Social media was a good medium for this but not if competing views were allowed which is why suppression (banning, algorithmic shadow bans and so on) ramped up. This is how brand marketing in particular works. People wind up with the age old "they must be like me!" connection and this winds up working to lower barriers to instability by helping orient behavior to something desirable. So much so that the left and others can be publicly shown this insanely dangerous methodology and yet be perfectly on board with it to where they are advocates. The second method of instability is, once they get their first demographics on board is they use them to produce instability and pressure others to adopt change via cognitive dissonance. Many people are psychologically weak and abandon their principles at the slightest bit of pressure and their desire for cognitive equilibrium ("Normal") has them weakly accept counterproductive viewpoints. The third is they ensure the other side is similarly polarized but in a significantly disorganized way. This aids in the fourth one which is misdirection, which is, to be able to cause chaos and redirect people's blame toward their desired target. Trump being busy fending off incessant bureau and Congress attacks, never mind using his ignorance of everything political (including said meritocratic environment) to infiltrate his cabinet can't really spend much time understanding what's going on and organizing people to convey useful messages. So he focused far more on defending himself and figuring out who he can trust. It took a couple years, which increasingly led to transparent revelations of broad misconduct from top to bottom. And because they saw this as a threat they even more intensely ramped up censorship (along with involving themselves in the election) to try and ensure their desired outcome. How little geniuses that call themselves moderates and independents understand when they they want to go back to normal they tend not to grasp how they've been used, and what normal actually means. A rapid expansion of malevolent people combined with weakening of grounded principles, in an unstable environment, means only one thing... civil war.

 

The best way to prevent this all along was people standing their ground on their principles, for example basic American principles of speech which the left maliciously try to gaslight about these principles being only for government. Don't affirm malicious behavior by voting in those who are doing it. Don't engage in "call out" culture which is another implement to muddle appropriate response. People talk up "calling out" things but it is a distraction.. people calling out things are more than capable of actions counter to their stated views, which is why our principles tells us to follow actions and not words. Don't stick around on platforms that are trying to censor you. Be willing to adjust to a changing environment, which means if the environment around you is radically changing and pressuring you, don't give an inch, if you're not a leader be ready to go with those following those principles. Go with people making more principled approaches even if you might ideologically disagree with them (meaning be prepared to join left wing populist movements as well so long as they're actionable in maintaining primary common values eg the constitution), the importance of our common principles and a powerful informed populace vastly outweighs our mere political differences. 

 

Had people stuck with those principles we'd not be facing this. People had better learn quickly to not bend the knee, to make uncomfortable choices that follow our long standing principles even against all the various methods people try and halt it. Learn to cut ties with minor leaders who you may agree with but who simply want to bank on people wasting their time with non contributory actions. It means involve one's self more in processes like elections, encourage people to vote outside the two parties, and learn to organize to unify voices based on our common principles which are neither left or right. Learn to join other platforms when the one you're on abandons their principles and bring as many people as you can to it. Utilizing what little options one has left in a productive way easily results in their defeat and much faster than letting them win and letting rebellion decide it much later. Once these weak people see that momentum is on the right side they'll abandon the people that they know are toxic in the first place and this is the more immediate catalyst to overcoming this moronic authoritarianism. 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Burnt Reynolds